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Post by Ghost... on May 15, 2009 20:39:44 GMT
and why coulndt they afford it?...let Aman Hayer go for "X" amount of cash...then they rinsed that on crap and "upcoming" artists....
hence why they have no money...Keep the main guy...
you wouldn't ever see Movie box selling Shinda to another label..
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Post by aj2012 on May 16, 2009 4:04:37 GMT
I wonder if the 'other' label Moviebox are trying to take over is Envy/Roma because if they had them as well then they would control alot of the old school gems (Multitone / Roma Music Bank). The only other label I can think of is OSA which has Malkit and Bally Sagoo and Nusrat stuff. ...Even if they did buy out OSA, I don't think they would have rights to the old Bally Sagoo Stuff, because, as far as I know, Bally took ownership of his own catalogue to his own Ishq Records, even the old stuff he did with OSA.....
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Post by pakithug2nv on May 16, 2009 12:57:53 GMT
f*K bally sagoo...the owner of OSA is a don..i wish he took ova moviebox...i wud hate for moviebox to get hold of stuff from malkit singh n nusrat fateh ali khan etc
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Post by ChamkilaManakShinda on May 16, 2009 14:16:20 GMT
and why coulndt they afford it?...let Aman Hayer go for "X" amount of cash...then they rinsed that on crap and "upcoming" artists.... hence why they have no money...Keep the main guy... you wouldn't ever see Movie box selling Shinda to another label.. Aman Hayer left the label possibly because they didn't have the budget to push Hayer the way Shinda and Jazzy are pushed by moviebox (for evidence of this, compare the Sher Panjabi (Genius)video to the Phattey Chak Denge (Moviebox) video). So this must mean the label was in financial trouble even when Aman was there, so it was a sound business decision to let him go to Moviebox. As I've said, that doesn't make them sell outs.
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Post by harrysingh123 on May 16, 2009 14:42:51 GMT
No record label functions properly, we hear all these mission statements of how they are going to be different (remember VIP's statement of changing the industry and how they are sick of record labels taking ages to release etc.) all of them r full of crap... none of them can run a business, and the ones that can attempt to dictate the market so they benefit in all ways... its bad because new potential talent, firstly wont get spotted, secondly may not be able to have the approach to their music as they wanted, because record labels will dictate when and what to release in order to maximise sales!
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Post by hotelsierrabravo on May 16, 2009 15:49:18 GMT
What are the current UK Bhangra record labels that exist?
Moviebox, Genie, Nachural.. what others
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Post by pakithug2nv on May 16, 2009 16:01:40 GMT
soundpipe, 4play, vip records, envy entertainment
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Post by harrysingh123 on May 16, 2009 17:13:59 GMT
and bazaar records, although not 2 sure who would be on their artist roster now and what state the company is in?
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Post by desi113 on May 16, 2009 19:28:54 GMT
lol dont include soundpipe they arent a label there a joke...
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Post by @kingofdesi on May 17, 2009 1:28:33 GMT
the best punjabi record company is planet recordz
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Post by Mr Singh 79 on May 17, 2009 14:58:06 GMT
The best bhangra record labels to ever exist were Multitone, Roma Music Bank (the original one & not the tatti envy/roma) & Nachural records.
The only one that still exists is Nachural Records, so they need to start signing up all proper BHANGRA artists from Moviebox (a lot of whom were with Nachural at one point anyway) & get back to being the number 1 record label!
Does anyone else remember Nachural Records line up back in the day? Below are just some of the artists they had:
Achanak G Mall & KS Bhamrah PMC Santara Anakhi Meshi (Eshara) Dippa (Satrang) Ambi Bilga Ahista Aina Shaktee Dalvinder Singh SAQI EWC Toofan DV8 Sahara EKY TSB Golden Star Soni Atwal KOKA (Dev Raj Jassal) Sukshinder Shinda (used to do a lot of percussion / production for them) Suki Lalli
Plus they used to release loads of complilation albums as well! Can anyone else think of any others?
Now I think they only hav the following:
Achanak XS Bass
I'm sure that they got rid of a lot of their artists when piracy killed the industry, but they should come back & take over again!
Also, everyone seems to have issues with labels being sold, etc, but the only reason why our industry is in the state it is, is because of piracy, so if piracy stops, so will the world domination by MOVIEBOX! Simple!
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Post by Ghost... on May 17, 2009 19:36:22 GMT
and why coulndt they afford it?...let Aman Hayer go for "X" amount of cash...then they rinsed that on crap and "upcoming" artists.... hence why they have no money...Keep the main guy... you wouldn't ever see Movie box selling Shinda to another label.. Aman Hayer left the label possibly because they didn't have the budget to push Hayer the way Shinda and Jazzy are pushed by moviebox (for evidence of this, compare the Sher Panjabi (Genius)video to the Phattey Chak Denge (Moviebox) video). So this must mean the label was in financial trouble even when Aman was there, so it was a sound business decision to let him go to Moviebox. As I've said, that doesn't make them sell outs. are u forgetting the "chargai" video?.."ik vari haa kar de" and "vekhi lagdi" they were big budget videos all shot in india and were done by genie....
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Post by reindiersingh on May 17, 2009 19:50:12 GMT
multitone records were a proper label, they had the whole bhangra sound and filtered out the trash from india for us bhangraheads. The label is supposed to be a filter, they understood that like noone else. We would buy any tape wtih a red spine and the M logo simply because we trusted their taste in music. The artist/band could be new and not known atall. Noone cared about that, it was in some ways about trusting the label. OSA had the same feel but not to the same extent because they did sometimes get singers from india and pakistan, but usually they kept their coverart simple so us bhangraheads could easily decipher between a bhangra tape and a folk tape.
nachural didnt really have any bands except for achanak so they werent really a bhangra record label but more of a dj/remixing outlet
the problem that happened is that many of the lables screwed themselves by trying to dress up cheapo dime a dozen releases from india with djs and 'bhangra' artwork (planet records in canada still does this) and trying to sell it off as bhangra. You would see the cover art would look a little like bhangra, the company was based in UK, fair enough, youd listen and the sound is punjabi folk!!
then you felt burnt..cuz you thought you were getting a band instead you got some dude named hans raj hans who is in love with his voice
desi records was bigtime guilty of this. Planet records in canada still does this. They think bhangra = punjabi singers from india and they are dead wrong.
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Post by harrysingh123 on May 17, 2009 21:48:03 GMT
Its not selling out but all labels r full of crap... the reason why bhangra music hasn't fulfilled its potential has been because of labels messing about with artists and producers... they should have no say in material or release time etc. however they do... our industry isn't run properly and there is nobody there with half a brain to figure out how to do it... they all want money and big names, and because of that they r slowly going to help add to the deterioration of panjabi music, culture is being put aside for selfish means and the industry no longer runs as a means of music lovers producing stuff to the best of their ability... Shame on the record labels and downloaders for the downfall of Bhangra!
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Post by Mr Singh 79 on May 17, 2009 22:15:10 GMT
Nachural had a lot more bands than just Achanak:
Achanak Anakhi Meshi (Eshara) Ahista Aina Shaktee Dalvinder Singh Dippa (Satrang) SAQI Toofan Sahara Santara TSB Golden Star KOKA (Dev Raj Jassal)
I'm sure there were more as well!
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Post by ChamkilaManakShinda on May 18, 2009 12:58:08 GMT
Aman Hayer left the label possibly because they didn't have the budget to push Hayer the way Shinda and Jazzy are pushed by moviebox (for evidence of this, compare the Sher Panjabi (Genius)video to the Phattey Chak Denge (Moviebox) video). So this must mean the label was in financial trouble even when Aman was there, so it was a sound business decision to let him go to Moviebox. As I've said, that doesn't make them sell outs. are u forgetting the "chargai" video?.."ik vari haa kar de" and "vekhi lagdi" they were big budget videos all shot in india and were done by genie.... Them three videos were shot in India and you say they were "big budget" videos, but I guarantee you that the 'Ik Din' video cost more than all three of them videos.
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Post by hotelsierrabravo on May 19, 2009 0:26:11 GMT
What are the current UK Bhangra record labels that exist? Moviebox, Genie, Nachural.. what others soundpipe, 4play, vip records, envy entertainment and bazaar records, although not 2 sure who would be on their artist roster now and what state the company is in? According to the Baja interview of Des-C @ Kaka Fundraiser, we have a new label on the scene; Toofan Entertainment, based in Southall. Looks like their debut release will be Des-C on July 20th. Des-C promises he will quite "music" if the album is not released in that month.. lol lets see what happens, never knowing with many albums never actually releasing on their "release date".
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Post by Ghost... on May 19, 2009 18:01:16 GMT
Based in Southall?...
only record i know of here is "Pa Pa Joes"..they released premi's "re-ignited" and were also going to release taj-e first album, but didnt (i think)...how they are surviiving i have no idea...but they do have a bar there ;D
where abouts in Southall sonn...?...im gna watch the interview now...
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Post by pakithug2nv on May 19, 2009 18:34:21 GMT
loll toofan entertainment...is run by some next dj
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Post by pakithug2nv on May 19, 2009 20:00:06 GMT
^ but then did u hear him on tu bataja? dat was a fookin tune
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Post by Tony on May 21, 2009 10:35:14 GMT
MOVIEBOX acquires GENIE RECORDS & its entire catalogue.
Moviebox are proud to announce that we have completed a deal with Mr. Saty Gill & Aman Hayer to acquire the entire assets of GENIE RECORDS.
Originally developed by Mr. Saty Gill & Aman Hayer from 2003 to 2009 the catalogue includes block buster hits from the likes of KULWINDER DHILLON, MANAK E, K.S. MAKHAN & AMAN HAYER with his biggest hits to date, which include massive albums such as “DE JA VU”, “GLASSY”, “REMINISCE”, “GENIE-US”, "2 MUCH GLASSY" & the most recent super hits “GROUNDSHAKER 1 / GROUNDSHAKER 2”. Mr. Saty Gill & Aman Hayer’s hard work & commitment to the catalogue is reflected in the fact that this catalogue is considered to be a major part of UK Asian music history to date.
Moviebox is continuing on its path of growing from strength to strength despite difficult times in the music industry. Our belief in the importance of artist and catalogue development, tied to a commitment to quality which demonstrates our passion for the Bhangra Music industry.
After acquiring Kamlee Records, Kismet Records & most recently Multitone Records we believe the acquisition of Genie Records is another great achievement at this present time where the industry stands.
We now look forward to bringing you quality BHANGRA music from the PAST, PRESENT & FUTURE…
We would like to sincerely thank Mr. Saty Gill & Aman Hayer for their hard work and efforts to bring this acquisition to fruition.
Kind Regards Kamraan Ahmed
MOVIEBOX 1ST FLOOR 351 LICHFIELD ROAD ASTON BIRMINGHAM B6 7ST
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Post by hotelsierrabravo on May 22, 2009 16:18:28 GMT
As long as their interests are for the greater good of the Industry then this is good news, if not.. then this is just another bad day in the world of the UK Bhangra Industry
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Post by JaTT on May 26, 2009 10:53:59 GMT
^^^ LOL i still remember your ghost post too. Movibox controls bhangra now didnt kn ow they control this forum too
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Post by ChamkilaManakShinda on May 26, 2009 16:13:19 GMT
^^^ LOL i still remember your ghost post too. Movibox controls bhangra now didnt kn ow they control this forum too I think Ghost was right, Moviebox are taking over the world.
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