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Post by whyzer on Jul 20, 2004 12:26:43 GMT
I know tigerstyle personally, and actually, like all artists, they do have a thing or two to say about other people. Tigerstyle are part of the elite in the industry, no doubt, but they did cuss notorious jatt in that interview..i just heard it in the interview section..it was so blatent that off mic they were making gestures towards him,etc. Its obvious these guys hate alot of the crap that comes out..which is fair play. I think we should let them do what they do..who cares about what they said about notorious tatt. O and, i went to desitunes4 u mr wise up, and they did actually insult bally sagoo, j skillz, and i know friends who have continously heard them cuss dr zeus and rdb (i dnt blame them, they all got ego anyways.) Laters u bunch of kids!
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Post by music fan on Jul 20, 2004 12:31:12 GMT
this is about music and as far as the music is concerned Tigerstyle got it locked! Notorious Jatt and his crew were on the old messageboard causing havoc before and thats why the messageboard was changed. seems like they are starting again. the only thing Tigerstyle said in the interview about Notorious Jatt was a small remark about the stupidness of putting home movies of a kabaddi competition in a music video so i dont see what all the fuss is about. the kray twins also diss a lot of artists including notorious jatt and panjabi mc. they havent even had an album out but from what people have been saying about them they are doing big things. i saw them in teh video for mark ronsons "ooweeee" tune. i heard them curse a lot of artists on radio too. there was also a big hoo haa about adil ray and metz & trix a while ago. people are always dissing each other in the music game. u see it in mainstream music, certain camps dont get along, certain artists dont like each others music. big deal.
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Post by wise up on Jul 20, 2004 12:53:29 GMT
taken from the desitunes4u interview:
"DJ Dev: Cool, so how about some word association to finish this thing off?
DJ Dev: Nihal
Tigerstyle: Sri Lankan brer
DJ Dev: J-Skillz
Tigerstyle: Lame
DJ Dev: Outlandish
Tigerstyle: Soulful
DJ Dev: Deeyah
Tigerstyle: I dunno her
DJ Dev: Dr Zeus
Tigerstyle: Chillin
DJ Dev: Moviebox
Tigerstyle: Fu** off
DJ Dev: Panjabi MC Tigerstyle: Leen
DJ Dev: Khiza
Tigerstyle: Average
DJ Dev: Bikram Singh
Tigerstyle: Ready to Blo
DJ Dev: Indy Sagu
Tigerstyle: Bradford
DJ Dev: Ravi Bal
Tigerstyle: Veteran
DJ Dev: Bally Sagoo
Tigerstyle: Businessman
DJ Dev: Tarli Digital Tigerstyle: Woolly Hat
DJ Dev: Raje Shwari
Tigerstyle: Dropped
DJ Dev: Raghav
Tigerstyle: Talented
DJ Dev: Panjabi Hit Squad
Tigerstyle: Loud...they make alot of noise
DJ Dev: Juggy D
Tigerstyle: Funky
DJ Dev: 22K
Tigerstyle: Grimey, Blitz is my boy
DJ Dev: Metz n Trix Tigerstyle: hahaha cheese
DJ Dev: Sneha Mistri
Tigerstyle: Determined
Tigerstyle: Our comments for the artists I dont know personally are a reflection on their music, not them as people obviously!"
what does that last statement tell you?
tigerstyle do diss other artists thats a known fact, but who and what are they dissin?
no diss to zeus, rishi rich, rdb or bally sagoo.
sum people just love chattin nuts here. theres seems to be a lack of intellegent discussion on this board which lets it down.
i v never heard a tape by notorious so im not goin to comment on them. they obviously have alot of time on thier hands to be on this board constrantly monitoring what people say and who cusses them.
the operators of this site support tigerstyle and so do alot of people who come on this message board, thats pretty blatant coz friends electrics is the only place sellin the new mixtape and tigerstyle's msn username is advertising the mail order number for friends electrics.
i dont think they use thier sikhi image to sell cds, i think they use their cds to promote sikhi and social conciousness in which ever way they can. the immortal cd vol1 wasnt done by them, this years vol2 was a compilation of sikh artists, not jus tigerstyle. they werent at handsworth, the stalls at the melas and nagar kirtans weren't run by them personally, they were run by singhs who support them and worked on the cd - speak after u find out the truth!
and to "haha" if im tigerstyle then u are blatantly notorious so lets not act hard and childish on the internet. its not adding anything to the discussion is it?
oh and ishq nagni is a bangin tune, and it is at No1 in adil ray's chart.
later.
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Post by Singh Soldier on Jul 20, 2004 12:57:57 GMT
they dont represent all singhs. they are artists in their own right. dont generalise just because they have turbans and beards. they obviously have an agenda.
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Post by Jakara Singh on Jul 20, 2004 13:38:25 GMT
tigerstyle command a lot of respect all over the world and it is their music that earns them that respect.
they attended a sikh conference a month ago in fresno california where the topic of discussion was 1984, simply to promote political awareness within sikh youth and to promote the shaheedi cd from which they are not making any money, their musical contribution has been given as seva.
all bhangra artists these days just make songs about boys and girls, dancing in clubs, getting drunk, etc, etc. there is very little music that has any meaning or that makes any kind of social commentary. tigerstyle seem to be bringing that element back into desi music and trying to push a sound and style that is a bit more conceptual than the average bhangra sound.
i dont think you can call them bhangra producers any more. like someone said in an earlier post, Tigerstyle are beyond bhangra.
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Post by Kamlee on Jul 20, 2004 14:52:06 GMT
I don't know Tigerstyle Or Notorious Jatt, But I do Know Taz (Johnny Zee, Stereo Nation) but I know who's music is more popualr at the uni's I went to Brunell for a couple of years & UCE for a year as well. 9/10 Tigerstyles tracks were getting dropped in gigs & they are more popular than Notorious JAtt. Not disrepecting Notorios at all, but he might have had a hit with Jite Jaan Punjabi or whatever it was called, (again no offense, but I have his album Killer Instinct, where he's holding the sword on the front cover & I've not heard it for a while, so I will listen to it & refresh my memorie,But like i said, if you look at Taz, on the international market, he is one of thebiggest UK Asian artiste out. He's more popular than Tigerstyle & Notorios Jatt, and Zeus, DJ Sanj, etc. But in the UK his name is above average, But to be big you need to be big on the international market, and trust me the closest thing to him right now is the Rishi Rich project. I heard the interview on this site with Tigerstyle & I do agree with them about the homemade Kabaddi video That was embarsing as hell to watch. What does that portray? No offence, but please...... I love my Punjabi Music A LOT. I've got bare tapes by Surinder Shinda, Kuldeep Manak, Kartar Ramla,Lalchand Yamla Jatt, Hazare SIngh RAmta to albums by Taz, Dj SAnj, Zeus, Panjabi Hit Squad, Bally Sagoo, Saqi, Alaap, Heera, Premi, Pardesi, B21, SUkshinder SHinda, Jazzy B, A.S,.Kang, LL Cool SIngh, RDB, NOTORIOUS JATT & TIGERSTLYE ETC. Most of the videos for the artiste are pretty lame, but some are really good, and hopefully the vid's will get better. But what I'm trying to say is I know my MUSIC & arstite will always be getting cussed by there fellow artiste & othere's in & out of the Industry!!! It';s like some of you who are reading this will say yeah she has a point well some of you will say stupid bit*h, what does she know & who the f**k is she etc. But I know music be it Punjabi, Hindi, R&B, Garage, Jungle etc Kamlee )(
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Post by daboss on Jul 20, 2004 15:10:30 GMT
Well said! It's about time we have some more serious comment's on hererrather than the usual S#!t
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Post by MUSIC LOVER on Jul 20, 2004 16:04:58 GMT
I mus agree to those who experienced tigerstyle have a ego problem. I do think by releasing a few successful albums they 'DNT' have the right diss other artists. If they tryin to do something professional, then should STOP!!! this childlike acts.
From my personal experiences, Ive heard there interview on the adil ray show.....N THEY HAVE GOT A BIG HEAD!!!!, THEY GOOD BUT HAVE A LOOONG WAY TO GO!!!!!!
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Post by SOULJAH on Jul 20, 2004 20:28:12 GMT
people have turned what i made as a valid point, into a joke thread. im not disputing the fact tigerstyle are good artists, im just sayin they shouldnt portray a saintly image i.e. which is what one does when u wear a turban and keep ur beard unshorn, when all ur gna do is cuss people down, be egotistical,etc etc. thats all my point was..i USE to look up to them. i was sharing my views with others, but no its just turned into a joke..aside from the poltiics, tigerstyle are GOOD artists..not the best..or amazing..but good. im a producer too so i know what im talking about.. If they cant hack sikhi and music..then dont use the former to promote the latter. regardless of whether anyone admits it or not; there was an agenda in making that album..the production wasnt the best..the tunes were fanatical rubbish which most sikhs dnt even agree with (i.e. the track about using guns to get khalistan, i mean wtf!!)..and it was blatently a rushed job to get some attention during vaisakhi. when i come onto the scene, if they so much as open their mouths, i wouldnt hesitate in slapping them and putting the footage in my video..lets not forget, theres two of u boys..so dnt judge SINGLE artists..it doesnt add up! anyways the point im making..dnt let ur egos kill u boys..cos its happnd to many a people before..just remember we are meant to be GURsikhs
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Post by tricksta on Jul 20, 2004 22:16:36 GMT
ur all jokers man. stop being wimps yeh n face these mans one on one. if artists got beef n wanna chuck tings about next man, then they should be willing to face the consequences..simple as u get me. dnt matter if everyone does it..if a mans gna say even a small ting about me, its the principle..he shouldnt open his mouf unless hes willing to back it up. if tigerstyle been bad mouthin ma boys (cussin videos is part of this) then they better watch their scottish clats, cos they may be tigers..but we tha lions. peace
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Post by wise up on Jul 20, 2004 22:33:12 GMT
souljah......whos the fanatic now?
how can you dictate how an artist lives and what they can and cant do bcoz they wear turban and beard.
the tracks 1984 shaheedi tracks were not fanatical rubbish, and the production was good quality, read the thread about the cd, everyone (around 4-5 thousand copies sold is what the interviews are sayin) who bought the cd only had good to say about it so your comments just make you sound jealous. the khalistani tracks were documanting the movement, if u don't understand the language used in the lyrics or the metafors used then don't blame them if it don't make sense to you! they diddnt even write all the tracks, it was a combined effort by many artists including xs bass...cuss them too!
i dont think tigerstyle portray a saintly image and never have done, what gave u that idea? do sikhs only exist and live in the gurdwara? dont they have any contribution to make to the create fields? thats ur own preconception so dont blame the artists. they are not being egotistical they are trying to be honest to the public about their ideas,opinions, concepts and vision, isn't that what an artist should do? they comminicate with the public thru the media which is available to them, isn't that what they should be doing?
is it upto you to decide whether they can hack sikhi or music? are you god? are you the whole general public who buy their cds and request their songs?
you sound like you're desperate to break into the scene and your cussin them for cussin people bcoz you can't match upto them. take a step back and listen to yourself!!
what is the point you're trying to make with there being two of them? tigerstyle is a brand. its the definition of a sound which they create as artists, not for them as two ordinary people! they are two normal bloke like every other person, they present their work to the public for appreciation and criticism and at the same time they criticise and comment on work by other artists, maybe not in the right manner but thats their shortcoming. your comments sound as if you need to think a bit more before u type. you sound very childish.
..............and i dont think it would be as easy as you think to put any kind of footage of any persons out on tv without their agreeing to it!! you obviously have alot to learn.
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Post by SOULJAH on Jul 20, 2004 22:49:36 GMT
ok raj or pops..this is obviously one of the two of u. simple as this...i aint rab..im not trying to be..but when u wear a turband and beard, u are in the appearance of a khalsa warrior..hence u are preaching indirectly, therefore it is a responsibilty of a khalsa sikh, to act in accordance with the gurus teachings so as to not mislead people..and this applies to people who keep their hair and drink..its not fanaticism..its a teaching guru godind singh ji passed onto his sikhs..read various rehitnamae by sikhs of the gurus times for more info brother. its excellent that ur promote ur ideals through music..just be tasteful in how u say things..an extremely bad offence is to hurt peoples sentiments or to slander..(which im not doing..ive only been kind to them..contrary to the beleif of the wise up character..who i beleive is one of u two, or affiliated.) please ellaborate on how the ak47 and using it to establish khalistan can be called a metaphor? as an english student i cant understand this statement..are the lyrics not clear in what they are conveying? those five thousand who purchased their album were like minded people..i.e. fanatics..when u feed people what they want..this isnt a skill..this is called good business..now if they had attracted non sikh or non relegious people into sikhism because of this..then fair enough..but somehow, i dont think those five thousand are people who have seen the light..infact, they were all people like me, who brought it because we know the money will be used for "sewa". as for breaking into the music scene, i dont have any problems with anyone saying anything about anyone..with tigerstyle i do..because i look up to them..well i use to..and im just confused as to why their obvious love for their faith (unless theyre hypocrites who give lip service, which let me add, our gurus said was a lowly act) hasnt helped them in remaining humble..or at least in being civil..let me rephrase..why the attitude if ur meant to be so called sikhs who are looking for freedom? (when all ur doing is oppressing people through derogatory comments..sayin x and y is rubbish can be most disheartening especially when the person involved is young,etc.) and brother, i wasnt being literate about the video..jeesh, and there goes the concept of sarcasm
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Post by Navtej Sahota on Jul 21, 2004 10:45:23 GMT
Selling the SIKH image? Malkit Singh wears a turban only for performances, Sukhshinder Shinda is the same, Bindrakhia had cut hair, HS Talwar, and countless others all use the turban to change their image in order to sell to a traditionally sikh market. So whats the big deal about Tigerstyle? Why curse actual Sikhs who have something to say? Why should they dumb down their music and not express themselves thru their music and image? Other artists in the industry use the Sikh image in a false manner and no one has anything to say about them, but when Tigerstyle try to be a concious and honest they get labelled as egotistical and fanatical? Every other bhangra artist save a handful of respected names put out the same bullnuts tracks about rubbish really, and when an artist tries to bring some standard of intellegence to the music form they get negative comments by a minority of people on this message board. Tigerstyle's music is crossing over to both asian underground scene ( the Shaanti crowd ) and some underground hip hop/rnb crowds ( the b sides & bootlegs ) aswell as the punjabi youth. their music is out of a handful who really cater for this generation in a credible and accessible manner. How can you judge them on their religion when you dont even know them?, i dont understand that. Its obvious some people have a grudge against them. grow up!
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Post by deepak on Jul 21, 2004 12:13:06 GMT
tigerstyle r big headed singhs, they should stick 2 1 damn path. y giv it the large with their turbans acting like gods true roop etc & still go 2 gigs, spin bhangra & tryn chat like black hiphop artist with foul language. they say the sikhs with cut hair don't no what they want but tigerstyle want both, they want the fame & coolness of bhangra but then still carry on like real religious singhs. no one is pickking on them, they bring this on themselves by dissing j-skillz, dr zeus & khiza. they probably dissed khiza because he's muslim. their production is nothing amazing just ok, their attitude stinks, they should decide on 1 path & stick to it. tigerstyle... i dont think so, more like mousestyle because they havent got the balls to say it to any artists face but instead on interviews like women & handbags. these guys r a joke!!
guys go back to doing sewa at yor local gurdwara, yor not cool & yor not hip enough for bhangra fans lol. good thing moviebox dropped them, their attitude stinks. i met them at a gig, theyre very two faced singhs who think theyre bad producers but i dont no any hit they have as big as dj sanj (das ja), zeus (kangana) & khiza (ranjha jogi).
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Post by ShereSingh on Jul 21, 2004 16:24:57 GMT
Deepak you just running your mouth again.....jus leave tigerstyle alone...khiza a good producer ya having a laff...olololololollolololol....hes S#!te.....yeeeaa respect to zeus and j skillz...bbrraaahh..tigerstyle are gonna explode just watch...bbrraahhh..and no im not tigerstyle im just a true fan and a producer myself.....PHULL FAUJ Productions....
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Post by hillarious on Jul 21, 2004 18:09:18 GMT
your not tigerstyle? listen, your having a laugh aint you? tigerstyle are comming on this board to back up what they said. pops & raj, f*%k off you stupid singhs, your right your gonna blow up, someone might drop a bomb up your ass & blow you up. idiots!
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Post by SOULJAH on Jul 21, 2004 21:09:42 GMT
Navtej bruv, i dont think u understand what im sayin..all those singers u listed arent relegious, or dont present that image. By keeping kesh (i.e. ALL hair on the body) unshorn, and by releasing albums about the sikh holocaust, AND using the kirpan as their logo, it kinda implies that they are trying to represent the sikh community. Fair play, thats beautiful..i love it! And i love them for it! But what i dont like is the attitude and ego, which leads them to make singhz look bad/give singhz a bad name. If they continue to act in this manner (with no humility or kindness) then id rather they cut their hair..and not represent the khalsa warriors of dasmeh pathshaa guru gobind singh ji maharaj. As producers, once again, they are GOOD..people cannot dispute this fact, they are ripping the music scene. Im not jealous, this was a thread intented to spark some reflection (on their behalf..)..sortof like a brotherly cry. So please dont turn other peoples comments against me, and say im anti tigerstyle, because im not. To the above, maybe clubs arent the place a khalsa sikhs should be, nevertheless everything else they do is not kurehit..so u shouldnt flame them for that. God day
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Post by SINGH n PROUD on Jul 21, 2004 23:27:42 GMT
HEY CAN U TELL US WHERE WE CAN READ/HEAR THIS INTERVIEW WHERE THOSE TIGERSTYLERS HAVE BEEN DISSING NOTORIOUS JATT? THEY ARE OUT OF LINE CUZ HE ALWAYS GAVE THEM PROPS AND PLAYED THEIR TUNES - THERE ARE GONA BE REPROCUSSIONS IF ITS TRUE THEY DISSED HIM AND HIS VIDEO. JUST TO CLARIFY WE DONT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN TURBANED SINGHS AND HAIR CUT SINGHS - IF EITHER STEP OUT OF LINE THEY GET BEATS. JATTSIDE CONNECTION (S.P. AFFILIATED) GUNSHOT RECORDS I BET THE MUSLIM BROTHERS R HAVING A RITE GUD OLD LAUGH AT ALL DISS!! AND JUST 4 THE RECORD US PHAG WALA WE AINT NO PU$$Y'S SO BRING WOT U HAVE 2BRING COZ WERE READY! WE HAVE A GREAT TEACHERS IN OUR GURU'S!! peace out
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Post by Dips on Jul 22, 2004 7:47:07 GMT
Eveeryone show's some kinda attitude to someone now days. It dose'nt mean anything what so ever. But dissing someone's work is adiffrent story. If Tigerstyle want to cuss Notorious Jatt's video fine so be it, and vice versa But So long as they don't get personal it all good. Look at Zeus's first couple couple of albums, There was quite a lot of samples on there, but look at Unda da Influence, you will hear the diffrence. LOok at Bally SAgoo with his Wham Bam album It was full of samples & yet he's now one of teh best producers out, and yet he still samples. What I'm trying to say is Artiste get better over time. Look at Tigerstlyes first album production wise then liste n to Virsa, you will hear the diffrence in production. SAme with B21 with the sounds of B21, then look at Public Demand a big diffrence in sound etc. If you cuss a artiste about his work, that's all good, as long as it is a legit cuss & not a personal one ! If that cuss then go's to help the artiste make a better tune & a better video, well we all benefit from it. If makes the artiste want to do better. Well that's my opion & I'm not cussing anyone down at all!!!
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Post by yeah bruv on Jul 22, 2004 11:17:30 GMT
totally agree that artists improve over time..what people dont understand is that music is very much based on how much money u have, similar to car racing..u can have all the ideas in the world, but without the tools (which are expensive) then u cant get nowhere.. cos of piracy and downloading, and cheap labels, artists have a low budget, hence the production stays roughly the same, and the videos are wack..thats why we need to work together to tackle these issues..we need to fuss about all these financial problems not whos better,etc.. because theres alot of circumstances to why people continue to make poor albums (reasons above, and a host of others) hence it is STUPID for artists to cuss one another..so i can understand where souljahs coming from..cussing is pointless in an industry which is being eaten up by poor finances (and not neccesarily a lack of talent)
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Post by iqbal on Jul 22, 2004 18:10:15 GMT
yeh thats true, everyone these days does have attitude, and i think you need it too these days bcoz average good people just get treated like S#!t. i dont think its that big a deal about one artist slandering another, its part of the game.
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Post by bhangra muffin on Jul 22, 2004 20:46:46 GMT
not really geeza, i know bare artists who are above average who aint chucking their weight around or givin it the large i.e. rdb, zeus, khiza, popsy, aman hayer, kami k, etc etc theres loadsa playas out there who aint givin it the big un! i say others could learn alot from them!
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Post by KHALSA SINGH on Jul 22, 2004 23:51:33 GMT
Souljah singh, i can understand where your coming from. What your saying is absolutely correct..but this isnt the right place to be giving vachar to your brothers. Its just embarassing for them, and makes you look like you have a motive/hidden agenda. As for the album, i felt the music and the singers,etc was all woven exceptionally; i know a handful of non relegious people who purchased this album, and becase of this, they have opened a whole world of learning (which stems from the politics within the sikh community.) As for khalistan, im not going to make many comments at this moment in time..however, i do beleive some lyrics were innappropriate..i know many hindus who were offended by this work..the cd does clarify the khalistan situation in the context of the sikh freedom fighters, but doesnt make it clear that the culprits were the government (sikh and non sikh) and not hindus as a nation. Tigerstyle are good artists..i hope people can look at the good things in one another, and focus less on the bad..bhangra itself is too small an industry to be consuming itself with internal bickering! God bless
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Post by KHALSA SINGH on Jul 22, 2004 23:53:50 GMT
Aaron bro, was there anything specific you wanted me to comment on? lol maybe i havent contributed to this thread as you wished me to! *why dont you contribute on here too, so i know where your coming from!
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Post by Souljah on Jul 24, 2004 10:37:28 GMT
I would like to apologise for my negative comments and for wasting everyones time on this thread.
I would also like to take this opportunity to say I, and the JATTSIDE CONNECTION S.P. affiliates will in the future do our utmost in maintaining the high standard of threads and discussions on this messageboard.
--sat sri akal--
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