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Post by MissDesi on Jan 3, 2005 16:44:38 GMT
At the end of the day...We live in a different generation. Nothing is easy as black and white. If you want to think about ur kids first , think........Who will make the best father to them? Someone who u love but is of another relgion?
Or someone who u dont love? Many questions and issues can be raised. Its not as simple as black or white.
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Post by rips on Jan 3, 2005 17:14:11 GMT
eastlondon kuri i totally agree wid u gal!!!!! dis is a nu generation n times hve changed. tru love shouldn't b torn apart coz of der race or religion!!!!!!! i'm wid u 100% eastlondon kuri!!!!! WHO CARES WOT OVA PEEPS FINK, ITS NOT DERE LIFE ITS URS! peacE!!!! p.s- big up 2 east london n all eastlondon kuri!--- lolzz!
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Post by rips on Jan 3, 2005 17:17:45 GMT
abcd ur backwardzzzzzzz!!!!!! dis gal in ma scool has a step father dat isn't muslim, i don't c her gettin cussed n tormented!!!!!!! n plus i'm in a scool full of muslim peeps but nobody reely cares!!!!!!!! so take dat!!!!!!!!!
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Post by jatta da munda on Jan 3, 2005 19:18:28 GMT
ermm..i totalli disagree to a sikh girl marrying a muslim or vice versa. Call it love or infactuation..the hatred is still there!! Wat is the point in even starting a relationship with someone who you know is impossible to get married too. At the end of the day, our main priority is to keep the family respect and make our parents proud of us, not giving them a life of misery or having grudges against us..life is too short. We dont immagine how much Behzti this would cause for our parents..call me backdated..but its TRUE .For a sikh to go out witha muslim guy/girl and having intentions to get married is totally wrong..and they know it too..maybe u call me to have biased thoughts..NOT really, its the truth we all know it..but find it hard to aceept it when one goes through this situation!! Muslim and Sikh/hindu culture totally clash..how can 2 people be on the same level when everything they will do is different..definitely cause conflict. A sikh wouldnt eat halal..they wouldnt eat nothing but halal..1 exmaple of the many differences u would face. Our culture is very precious to us..and we must maintain that..not hiding it or being ashamed of it..hence being fored to adapt another culture, a total different lifsetyle!! I have nothing agaianst muslims but totally disagree that sikh.muslim marriages should take place!!
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Post by Summan on Jan 4, 2005 12:56:09 GMT
jattan da munda....'ur not being bias'...yet u carry the name 'jattan da munda'. although i partly agreed with what u wrote, i dont think u have a right to comment on sikhi if u support the caste division. u probly are really intellegent and know a lot about ur religeon, but u shouldnt comment against a religeon division if u support a cast division...that alone is doing behzti to sikhs...sikhs hating sikhs...nasty stuff.
as for the muslim/sikh marriage...i agree with the guy above. firstly- u shouldnt have LET it happen...it aint fair on ur family and ur sikh traditions. i know that we shouldnt keep the grudge, but u have to understand that NO muslim family would agree to this sort of marriage...y shud we? u can think as modern as u like, but behind closed doors, u havent got a CLUE what ppl say. i would do anything for my family, and giv my life for them...would you??? if the answer is yes- then u should be able to giv up this guy.
my friends massi (sikh) got married to a muslim guy...they were in love and had a child together...he is now married an extra 3 times, and only visits her once every 3 months. it's sad because multi marriages are acepted in muslim traditions, so she had to accept it too. would u really want a life like that? he can say 'no he would never marry anyone else...but what if he WANTS to marry some1 else for convenience or whatever? what u gna do then? do u want that life? what religeon will ur children marry into? do u want ur parents blessings at ur weding?
think long and hard about ur decision. not with hate- but with SENSE. good luck
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Post by TAZ on Jan 4, 2005 13:24:18 GMT
Yer well 2 b honest, yer, i tink dat Jatt Munda is wrong! Coz, muslims n sikhs sooooo do not clash!! i ave alot of sikh m8'z! n i treat dem lke dere my sisterz!!! jus coz were frm a differnt religion, it does not mean u cnt get married 2 sme 1 frm a differnt religion, as long u love dem, den das ok, also, i'm sure dat the children will b proud if like dere mum was sikh n da dad was muslim?? They'll b gr8ful of wat dey have!!! as long da 2 married people r happy den dat is good enough!!!
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Post by MissDesi on Jan 4, 2005 13:44:15 GMT
It's a new generation. Im not saying go find a muslim guy , but if u fall in love with one ur kinda stuck arent you? It;s a tough one this one. Just dont generalise.
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Post by rips on Jan 4, 2005 18:54:51 GMT
OMG!!!!!!!!! i really don no who 2 support ere coz everi 1s made such gud arguments!!!!!!! its tru dat da rest of da world won't agree wid ur marriage if ur not da sme religion, but wat can u do if ur in lov? but i don tink u shuld listen 2 wat ova peeps tink, u shuld listen 2 wat ur heart tells u 2 do! but wat if ur parentz don agree wid ur marriagE??? who r u supposd 2 stay wid? da 1 u lov truly or da people who hve cared 4 u n stuk by u wen u were n trouble? iis a hard decsion!!! i'd b confused totallyyyyyy!!!!
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Post by MissDesi on Jan 4, 2005 18:58:38 GMT
true its hard. I guess its one of those situations that u cant fully undrstand what its like unless ur in the situation itself.
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Post by jatta da munda on Jan 4, 2005 20:12:56 GMT
hi summan..ur comments make sense!! I was not making any comment on SIKHI..comenting on the title of this post ''MUSLIM AND SIKH MARRIAGES''..btw im expressing my own perosonal views..my views as a being a sikh myself, not on behalf of other sikhs. TAZ..let me correct ''CULTURE CLASH' not a muslim and sikh clashing..i also have muslim friends!! Its true that conflict will arise at one point,regarding culture and religion if 2 were married!! Rips..i agree situations like these are very confusing..and do put u at misery, but listening to elders is the most vital thing..ppl do realise after..gets 2 late!!! miss desi.. miss desi..good luck with ya studies..heheeh
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Post by east london kuri on Jan 4, 2005 22:48:35 GMT
jatta da munda- i totally agree with you on the fact that we should continue with our culture, but I'm sorry I just cannot agree with that fact that you don't believe it to be just for a muslim to marry a sikh. As odd as it may sound- you can actually maintain your sikh culture even if you do marry someone who is a muslim. I mean look at our grandparents, they came over to countries where there was no indian culture, yet they have managed to to maintain a very strong cultural identity amongst a white population, so don't you think one could do they same in an inter-religious marriage? Don't get me wrong I'm not promoting sikh's marrying muslims, becasue as a young sikh woman, I would prefer to marry a sikh, all i'm saying is the idea should not be dismissed. I'm not endorsing this, I'm simply highlighting situations that happen, and urge people to give them a chance. xx
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Post by TAZ on Jan 5, 2005 12:17:02 GMT
i agree with u, jatt da munda. im very sorry!!!
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Post by MissDesi on Jan 5, 2005 12:45:02 GMT
Well said east london!
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Post by jatta da munda on Jan 5, 2005 14:07:34 GMT
I partli agree with kuri!!what is the point east london kuri..when u will be diiferentiating everything between urselves. A question..would u allow ur kids to have interracial marriages?? Taz no probz
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Post by east london kuri on Jan 5, 2005 15:30:18 GMT
i would absolutely completely allow my children to marry anyone they wanted, black white or blue, and i sincerly mean that. Everyone wants their kids to be happy right? so there is no way I would ever tell my children 'that you will only find happiness with someone who is sikh' they may find happiness in the strangest person, I will never limit them, simply allow them to be free
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Post by TAZ on Jan 5, 2005 15:53:57 GMT
yer i c were ure goin, east london kuri, n i also c were jatt da munda is goin 2!! Bt da ting is whose right??? coz use both snd very positive!!! Safe jatt munda!
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Post by JATTA DA MUNDA on Jan 5, 2005 17:05:02 GMT
LOLZ..vote 4 me or east london kurri cheerz taz!! remember to think 2wice b4 voting!! hheh
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Post by Mamula on Jan 5, 2005 17:07:46 GMT
lol ur a joker.. i think ur goin nutz..
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Post by TAZ on Jan 5, 2005 19:51:54 GMT
dass aitee, jatt munda! now.........hmmm,, were shall i strt/? 2 b honest i dunno who 2 vote 4?? lol...newayz tke care peepz!! xxxxxxxx
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Post by MissDesi on Jan 8, 2005 19:02:18 GMT
Hope anyone in that situation can shed some light on what it must be like..
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Post by abcd on Jan 12, 2005 19:11:10 GMT
abcd-thank u for your 'insightful' thoughts shall we say, but I too have some answers for you. To be honest, I find it upsetting that i have to share a world with someone who is as narrow minded and cynical as yourself. Why do you think that having mixed race children will suddenly make their lives extremely difficult, sorry to burst your bubble but two of my extremely close friends are mixed race, one with parents who are sikh and catholic, and the other with parents who are muslim and hindu. do they suffer? NO do their family hate them? NO do they have problems at uni? NO do they have friends? YES on the contrary, they enjoy being able to expreience two very different cultures. I don't mean to be personal, but I really do hope that one day you too see that there is more to life than race and religion, what can I say, maybe my politics is much more liberal than yours due to the way i was bought up, but hey such is life. xx Balle Balle Balle - back ward - me? how? why ? this is just the plain and simple truth from a mate whos Dad is punjabi and mother is white so you see east london kuri some have it good but most will have it rough even the parents suffer now and then as people stare at these strange oldies couple - you should see them and boy you will stare too ! abcd
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Post by Harpreet Aka silky singh on Jan 12, 2005 20:46:29 GMT
I think that mixed marriages are ok (im only 17 yet, so i gots plenty of time yet...lol ;D) if that is what the couple want....but....everything always seems to come down to the parents, Personally my parents are ok with the whole mixed marriage and girlfriend/boyfriend thing, the both know the girl im going out with. Anyway, this is what i think, Your parents maybe around for another 30, 40 years, and u are going to be around maybe 60,70 years, so You could either:
1. make your parents happy for that 30-odd years, and be unhappy for the 30,40 years that u are going to live afterwards
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2. be happy for the years whilst your parents are around, so they can see u happy, and u can also be happy for the time your parents are nopt there. (who's knows they may learn to accept this decision, but u will never know unless u make it!)
Also if u take take option 1,by the time your parents have gone, then it will be too late for u to make a decision like this!
anyways....dont know if it helped or not, jus thought i shud put my veiw across, but im only 17 yet, got bare stuff 2 learn!
safe
tc
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Post by asiansweet on Jan 13, 2005 13:52:44 GMT
hey ppl i fink if ur really in love go for it long as u love each other aswel u can aslo be friends ntin wrong wid dat
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Post by Summan on Jan 18, 2005 17:05:06 GMT
yeh some really good comments on here since the last time i posted!
my last word on this topic is that love is real, feelings count, emotions take over......but you should never ever forget your roots and your traditions...we all sit here and plan for the future, and if ur in love, u see the future of you and your husband living happily ever after....but you gta remember, ur children are in ur future too- so you are writing their future as we speak...ur beliefs, opinions everything, will be passed onto your kids.
leaving your famly and distressing them is the most horrible and selfish thing a human can do.....its one thing if the parents accept it, but if they dont, y kill them while theyre alive? im sure you wouldnt like it if one day your daughter came to you saying something you're completely against....lets say she's 16 and sez she's staying a night at her boyfriends...and goes despite your distress......same thing you'd do to your traditional parents if you marry into a diff religeon.
so there are a lot of things to consider. love has boundaries and limits too.. just cuz we live in the 21st century, it doesnt mean we dont set boundaries or limits to how far 'love' can go. stepping over the obstacles in life is risky and immature....but facing your fears and compramising with problems makes you a stronger and better person.
PHEW!
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Post by jattan da munda on Jan 21, 2005 18:12:34 GMT
i totalli agree with summan
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