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Post by Jasi_bham on May 16, 2005 14:34:28 GMT
lem jatt......SHUT UP MATE!!!!! 'im sorry ur a lower caste.....jatts are top of the ladder'......wasnt that just a slap to sikhi??? wot kinda of petty n egotistic comment is that.....i dnt agree wiv the caste system but im not gonna deny the fact that it exists!!! n yea im one of the so called lower castes....but the problem i have wiv the caste system is wiv ppl like u!!! the ones that think they r so much better then everyones else and for wot....for having a certain surnames...plz!!!! u have no rite to act all high n mighty for being a jatt cos uve done nothin to deserve ne respect for it!!! thats y i think the caste system is bullS#!t!!!! and plz think b4 u make such pathetic remarks in the future!!!
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Post by SEXYJATTI on May 22, 2005 20:21:57 GMT
u kno what i dnt even remember writing that Probably did though, but i can honestly say barring my username my views have changed. No castes amongst sikhi.. its onli part of the hindu religion ;D
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Post by Desi Tiger on May 22, 2005 21:51:37 GMT
I swear down i cant not believe wot the f**k im hearing from you lot, lem jatt, duno hu you fink you are but wot gives you right to say jatt are top right hu says that and only that, do people sound lik they care hu is friggin top rank yeh it aint about ranks hus top hus bottom everyone shud b equal why cant people understand that we all sikhs,Fair enough it follows traditions and stuff but that dont mean we got have a flippin hierachy amonst us and if you do then your messed up.
i dont personally like cast system if you took it away maybe life would be easyier for alot of peeple but the fact is cast sytem aint guna disappear over night so we gota respect that and not fink about bludy ranks hus on top and S#!t...relly pissed me off that did im sorry to say.
peace
ezzy
tiger
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Post by mng on Jun 22, 2005 22:31:54 GMT
does any1 know how far back the sikhi religion goes back and how it was made?
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Post by Tony on Jun 23, 2005 0:36:16 GMT
www.punjab2000.co.uk/leicestersikhs.htmlThis should help you out. By the way I also agree with people that have said the caste system is WRONGIt has no place in Sikhism what so ever! Guru Nanak DevJi said that all men & women are equal, to me that should mean no caste!, But it's the culture , that is to blame rather than the religion The other thing that annoys me a lot is when you go to the Gurdwara, why are men & women sat sepratley? I've been to a couple of Catholic church's & men & women sit together. Tony.
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Post by bham da jatt on Jun 23, 2005 16:41:40 GMT
beta b careful i guess talking to the man himself lol.
but let me share my opinions.
yes caste system is wrong in Sikhi as Sikhs should believe in the equality of all human beings. i am talking in the sense that no1 should discriminate against others.
as for ur second point tony, well ive not got a strong opinion about this, but im quite happy with the system at the moment. think about it, plenty of ppl our generation whilst sitting in the Gurdwara check out ppl of the opposite sex when they r sitting sepearatly, can u imainge what would/could happen if they were mixed. one must remember the reason we sit at the Gurdwara is to be with Waheguru and understand His teachings, not get DISTRACTED. i believe thats the reason this is the case, if any1 else knows better than I, then plz tell.
one of my mates is a strict hindu, n he tells me that males n females arent even allowed in the same area. as for muslims, im sure women arent allowed to even go to the mosque, please correct me if im wrong.
bham da jatt!
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Post by Ritzy on Jun 30, 2005 12:14:46 GMT
erm jus to correct you there bout the hindu part, males and females are allowed in the same area...if uve ever bin to a mandir ul find that it's the same as a gurdwara, men on one side, women on the otha x
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Post by bham da jatt on Jul 2, 2005 13:06:07 GMT
hey ritzy, sorry for the mistake.
yes i have been to a Mandir and yes ur right the one i go to its all in the same religious hall (sorry i dont know the correct word for it).
however, i know that the Swaminaryan Mandir in Neasden, men n women sit separtely? as together with other Swaminaryan Mandirs? i know of some, sorry if im wrong.
bham da jatt
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Post by walsallkuri on Jul 6, 2005 14:46:03 GMT
i think its all bull- everyone is equal!!
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Post by Tony on Jul 6, 2005 16:37:44 GMT
i think its all bull- everyone is equal!! Well said!
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Post by walsallkuri on Jul 6, 2005 16:52:07 GMT
its true tho init!!! back in the day ok people it was maybe important- but it aint now...people need to get wit it!
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Post by Swami on Jul 7, 2005 14:33:41 GMT
Whether it's Sikhi, Hinduism, Islam, whatever...the caste system has to no place. All people were created equally and therefore we should treat each other as such.
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Post by walsallkuri on Jul 7, 2005 14:45:34 GMT
i totally agree with u!!
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Post by Swami on Jul 7, 2005 15:26:38 GMT
Thanks Sista Temptress!
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Post by walsallkuri on Jul 7, 2005 15:34:12 GMT
Posted by Swami on Today at 4:26pm Thanks Sista Temptress! no problem honey....but its tru init-everyones equal- castes r a thing or should be a thing of the past!
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Post by Desi Tiger on Jul 15, 2005 16:16:05 GMT
yesh wel said temptress however not all people think lik that init if only eh... take away cast everything wud be fine but it aint guna go ova night isit...?
ezzzy
tiger xxxx
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Post by bham da jatt on Jul 15, 2005 16:28:51 GMT
u c, i dont understand this whole issue (that will probs never stop) about the caste system.
i honestly dont think there is anything wrong with the caste system. but at the same time i do, let me explain:
i personally still believe one should marry within the caste system as its still part of our society.
however, i also believe that no1 should feel or call them more superior than another human being becuase sikhi tells us to treat every1 equally.
i seriously dont think ive contradicted myself here, but any1 is up for an argument, then let me know lol.
take care
bham da jatt
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Post by walsallkuri on Jul 15, 2005 16:58:22 GMT
well bham da jatt...what can i say..on one hand ur saying ppl shud marry within their caste, on the other ur saying everyone is equal....well honey if everyones equal it shudnt matter which caste u marry! well thats just my opinion babe!
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Post by Desi Tiger on Jul 15, 2005 17:03:59 GMT
bham da jatt bruv , you say ther nuffin rong with the cast system right they probly isnt but when it comes dwn to finding da kuri of ur dreams your soul m8 and she aint the same cast u have a problem right, one person in this thread meantion jatts being higher cast dats a load S#!tte to be onhest.
people look at the cast system with hierchy they shudnt they shud terat every the same but do they ill let u all think about that one.!
peace
ezzy tiger
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Post by bham da jatt on Jul 15, 2005 21:32:28 GMT
mate u know me well enough to know i dont need time to think about things, i can asnwer ur question with ease:
in my personal opinion, i can never have a soul mate thats not of the same caste as me, simple as...
ive already mentioned that i dont think one person is higher than the other jus cuz they r of a different caste, or anything for that matter.
answered all ur questions mate?
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Post by Desi Tiger on Jul 15, 2005 22:01:52 GMT
geeza you know what one day it may come down to and i pray it never happens to neither me or anyone else that if you were to find a kuri or mundi wich ever case out of cast it wud come down to choosing between them and your family, i know someone who was in similar situation and it hard however i aint sure how it guna turn out b4 u ask me wot choice they made..! but i know one thing if i find a kuri who i dearly want to spead rest of my life wiv...(hint hint "temptress" loll ) only kiddin then i wud hav to negotate it out wiv my family thats of course if i found a kuri out of cast.
i dont think that should matter though end of the day it guna b a decision you hav to make to either regret or be happy wiv for the rest of your life.!!!
ezzy
tiger
ezzy
tiger
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Post by walsallkuri on Jul 18, 2005 11:29:29 GMT
HINT HINT TEMPTRESS!!!!!!!!!!! u joka tiger!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bham da jatt on Jul 18, 2005 14:19:53 GMT
u lot have turned all these serious debates into a flirting competition lol tut tut!
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Post by walsallkuri on Jul 18, 2005 14:39:53 GMT
u lot have turned all these serious debates into a flirting competition lol tut tut! whopps!! its tigers fault, he's a bad bad boy!!
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Post by bham da jatt on Jul 18, 2005 15:10:47 GMT
so, u a sikh? do u think its right or wrong?
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