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Post by rajpreet82 on Jun 10, 2008 22:08:35 GMT
suddenly?
ive not looked into rehit maryadas before. and why isnt there jus one. youve done nothing to help answer the questions asked in the first post, so i can jus assume that the points i made were correct because they have not been challenged.
does the sgpc not follow the ggs? or do they jus pluck stuff out of air?
and i do not want to continue debating with you because i clearly think that it will not get nowhere.
you being the only person who follows my posts around and debates with me is making me feel ashamed of being a sikh. i do not want to follow a religion where thers people like you who claim to be sikh.
dont reply to this.
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Post by londonLIONjatt on Jun 10, 2008 22:22:07 GMT
LOL u ain't admin. I have to reply cos of the way u talked about me.
Well there is one rehit maryada followed bi nihangs, I would most likely follow their Buddha Dal maryada, but again it is mainly for Singhs and not other sikhs.
SGPC plucked whatever their British masters told them in the British Raj, their rehit maryada was made last century when various groups of sikhs got together to make it. This is a forum, but you don;t want debate? You look at others to feel shame, why don;t you follow sikhi without looking at others? Don;t worry I do not belong to any religion, I follow the Gurus, you do not have to call me sikh.
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Post by mrshdhami on Jun 10, 2008 22:42:30 GMT
I used to think that guy who lives behind me who looks into my bedroom was weird, oh no, you have beaten him on my list of weirdo's in this world
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Post by londonLIONjatt on Jun 14, 2008 14:39:58 GMT
lol hahahahaa
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Post by Ghost... on Jun 15, 2008 12:07:03 GMT
twinkle, ur the weird one!
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Post by londonLIONjatt on Jun 15, 2008 12:47:25 GMT
nope its definetly rajpreet
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Post by raj2000 on Jun 24, 2008 6:18:12 GMT
I have seen all sorts of ppl get married in the gurdawarra, ppl who have previously been divorced, come from another culture/relgion. I don't think there is an issue with getting married sikh style, because anyone can. You just need to make sure that the person you want to marry is happy to marry that way, but it's important for you to know where you stand with your faith/identity, I guess it will come with time and the more you search. my family would love for me to marry a sikh, saini boy, but they are happy just for me to marry in the gurdawarra whoever it is as long as it is not muslim due to our history with them, although I believe its a person heart and character that is more important, regardless of background. In the end if sikhism religion/ spirtualty is not important to you than your kids are probably not going to be sikhs either unless you do part and kirtan etc in your house. they still will be punjabi, that's different. the thing is most of us are not pactising sikhs we are just punjabi's who have sikh ancestors
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Post by londonLIONjatt on Jun 24, 2008 18:55:04 GMT
Well, anand karaj was only practised by khalsa singhs and sehajdharis usually got married in their own cultural styles. This was until the sehajdhari sikh sect called the Nirankaris (of whom the sant nirankaris branched off) introduced this to their followers. The SGPC who came into power around 1920s then made the nirankari style anand karaj as the main way to get married for sikhs that followed SGPC lol ie the mainstream. Oly difference was the niriankari style goes clockwise as opposed to the original anti clcokwise of the nihang khalsa i believe lol I think character is very importanty, there are many jattis with low character I would not marry wiould rather marry to another caste but I will marry jatti though lol. I have come across people who just follow sikhi and not their culture and I have seen not very good chracter. I think its important to follow tradition and culture as well as sikhi, which to me is culture as well since I do not believe in religion as such, not in the western sense anyway. This was easier when I was a young little boy when everything just seemed like culture Also these days I am looking for a traditional/ cultural wife as opposed to "religious" one, this is because of the so called "religious girls I have come across. I don't mind if the sikh knowledge is limited, as long as at least the traditional values are there at least. Also some are extremists lol
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Post by mrshdhami on Jun 24, 2008 23:48:15 GMT
Sikh kuri looking for a new car.
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Post by Ghost... on Jun 25, 2008 9:29:40 GMT
I swear you're a Jew.
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Post by mrshdhami on Jun 25, 2008 13:16:10 GMT
like your sas
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Post by amriksingh on Jun 25, 2008 13:17:52 GMT
don't talk about my wife like that
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Post by mrshdhami on Jun 25, 2008 13:18:49 GMT
Thought your wife was an Arab?
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Post by amriksingh on Jun 25, 2008 13:20:34 GMT
Nah
you have good taste though
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Post by mrshdhami on Jun 25, 2008 13:24:39 GMT
I know I have good taste, hence why I am married to Tony, don't hate.
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Post by amriksingh on Jun 25, 2008 13:25:51 GMT
He's arab i take it
lol
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Post by mrshdhami on Jun 25, 2008 17:56:57 GMT
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Post by amriksingh on Jun 25, 2008 21:34:55 GMT
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Post by saggi on Dec 20, 2008 14:37:54 GMT
Yes....YES....yes...Haan Ji...Okey....
But can you reply, Why in Only in Gurudwara? Are you not aastha in Hindu or any other dharma? well it ok for me in Gurudwara also.
SAT NAAM SHRE WAHEGURU...JO BOLE SO NIHAL....SATT SHREE AKAL...
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Post by londonLIONjatt on Dec 21, 2008 15:46:09 GMT
my family would love for me to marry a sikh, saini boy, but they are happy just for me to marry in the gurdawarra whoever it is as long as it is not muslim due to our history with them, although I believe its a person heart and character that is more important, regardless of background. these days, many peopel including sikhs don't see any sort of marital ceremony to be important to start a partnership. So these days, to start a partnership, sikh guy will just pick up a girl, and a modernised sikh girl will easily accept, without thinking of any marital ceremony to be important, let along just gurdwara. It is the level peoples' dharm and izzat has fallen to...
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Post by JackWilshere on Dec 23, 2008 11:31:19 GMT
answers. I am a sikh. I might marry a black man, white man, christian, jew, hindu, muslim or a simpson. If I do, will I be allowed to get married in a Gurdwara? If yes, great. If no, then why? The sikh religion states that all beings are equal and should be respected. Sikhi does not discriminate between religions and races. If Sikhi respects all faiths then why can I not marry someone who is not a sikh? ^^^ That does not make any sense to me. If sikhs believe that all religions are equal blah blah, then why do people behave like morons when two people of different religions get married. Is the Sikh religion contradicting itself? The fact I read "marry" "a" "muslim"....all in one sentance, I can't breath.........why would you want half the goods
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Post by YOGRAJ on Dec 23, 2008 21:39:32 GMT
i'm no expert in sikhism, but anand karaj (the sikh wedding ceremony) as u may know, is supposed to be a spiritual bond between the two partners and the pledges are made infront of the Guru Granth Sahib Ji..now if someone is about to pledge to the guru...they need to accept him as a guru no?!? now perhaps a christian/muslim gets married by anand karaj, he/she's not going to accept the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, he/she may respect it but he will not see it of religous significance to them, it will be just a ceremony to them and therefore...the whole anand karaj ceremony will not be valid.
so i'm preety sure, aslong as that person see's the Guru Granth Sahib Ji as valid and it has significance in their life, no matter what background/colour/even religon..would be allowed to marry by anand karaj...although this is a hard one, as anyone can say they accept the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, whether this is true or not is hard to question...that's why people tend to authoritise who gets married in gurdwaras...and usually it's only those who are "sikhs"...but even alot of apne who get married by anand karaj don't even follow the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, or actually see it to have significance in their life (i'm no perfect sikh myself, but i'm just noting the truth). so really, its a very complicated argument...
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Post by londonLIONjatt on Dec 24, 2008 17:04:15 GMT
well, many of us who call ourselves sikhs don't really know about or follow all of guru granth sahib, where should we marry? lol
of course, before anand karaj act (last century i think?), these people would have married in any way which fitted in their tradition. It used to be mostly khalsa which married to anand karaj, and of course, they DID follow all of Adi Guru Granth Sahib!
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Post by msscandalous on Feb 8, 2009 18:54:15 GMT
There shouldnt be a problem if you get married in a Gurdwara, o long as the protocols of Anand Karaj is respectfully followed and the families do not appear too outa place...no stress otherwise give it a try...seen lotsa em before never had to shoot anyone...
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Post by bedroomdj on May 25, 2010 16:13:43 GMT
I haven't read through all replies but this is what the situation is now.
It is being implicated widly throughout major Gurdwaras across the UK and other (other are following now as well) that unless the boy has Singh and the girl has Kaur in there names they are no permitted to to get married in a Gurdwara.
Guru Gobind Singh Ji said to marry Sikhs, raise ur kids as Sikh and So Forth.
Regarding recognising everyone as equal simply means not to put them down, not to see ur self above and not to discriminate this has nothing to do with regarding marriage
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