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Post by Baja on Mar 10, 2005 17:05:07 GMT
According to some sources, more than half of all British Pakistanis end up marrying their first cousins. The BBC sheds light on this cultural practice next week in a half hour documentary. Marrying My Cousin is Neila Butt's personal story. Eight years ago she (pictured with her husband) married a man she hadn't met. Farooq was born in Pakistan; spoke limited English, and was her first cousin. But now it is her brother's turn and he is not too happy about it. The film follows 30 year old Gark as he embarks on a journey to Pakistan to meet the cousin his family plan for him to marry. He has agreed to go there but is quite clear that he has no plans for the wedding to take place. Though her brother is not so keen, Neila has been very happily married for seven years, has two children, and her family hold her marriage up as a shining example of how cousin marriages work. Though the practice isn't illegal in the UK, many non-Pakistanis are shocked at the thought of cousin marriages. According to some estimates, almost 80% of arranged marriages in Birmingham's 70,000-strong Muslim community are cousin-to-cousin or uncle-to-niece. Mamoona Tahir, a specialist registrar in public health for Birmingham health authority, revealed a few years ago that according to research, infant mortality rates in the Pakistani community were 2.5 to 3 times higher than for any other group in Birmingham. Another alarming statistic is that Pakistani babies are 10 times more likely to suffer an inherited metabolic disorder than are other babies born in West Midlands. And Muslim children under one year old are almost twice as likely to stay in hospital because of congenital malformations than other Birmingham babies. However, Neila grew up with the knowledge that her marriage would be arranged, and she stresses that she wasn't forced into it. She explores why many Pakistanis marry their cousins, despite the health risks, and speaks to experts who explain the health implications of these cousin marriages. The programme gives a first hand account of Gark's visit and its life changing outcome. Marrying My Cousin will be on Tuesday 15th March, 11.20pm - midnight, BBC2 The programme has been produced by the BBC Asian Programmes Unit (Should be an intersting point of debate - any views feel free to post them members)
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Post by Bally83 on Sept 9, 2005 9:16:34 GMT
Yeah- has this all ready been on or is it cumin on next year!! Either way, the timing of the thread is so random
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Post by lilsaj on Sept 14, 2005 0:30:03 GMT
I knoooooooooow lollll, timing is off, people either will say wtf if its from this year, or theyll forget about by next march
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Post by Desi Tiger on Sept 21, 2005 18:59:13 GMT
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL U JOKAS
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Post by kidterra on Nov 4, 2005 20:33:15 GMT
marying ur cuz is really wierd, serious, man, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. How can u get married 2 someone who is like a sis or bro, some1 who u use 2 play with, and be kids with, i think its really backward.
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Post by Bunnypie on Nov 4, 2005 22:10:15 GMT
^^... i do agree wit you...at end of day..ur family is ur family...and then.... anyway...... i aint got time 2 explain now..but i wil 2moro
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Post by kidterra on Nov 4, 2005 23:40:19 GMT
Thank god it dont happen in da sikh religion, than i would be embarrassed of my own religion, this process does qualify as inbreeding. Tell u what, imagine 2 cousins from a young age, both doing what normal cousins do, like playing etc, and u got fam telling em they should look out 4 each other coz they are like bro and sis, imagine when these peeps reach the age, thier rents get em married off, imagine the wedding NIGHT, is that a mind f**k or what. Also the excuse that these peeps always come out with is that its second cousins, like that matters, but i know 4 a fact it also first cousins.
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Post by lilsaj on Nov 5, 2005 17:49:30 GMT
Yea, its common for them to marry first cousins.
Yea its odd, but Mirza and Sahiba were first cousins, they played together in childhood, and they fell in love lol. They werent even forced into anything lol
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Post by kidterra on Nov 5, 2005 18:12:57 GMT
who the hell are mirz and sahiba. Im sure some peeps get a sick kick out of inbreeding. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Post by Desi Tiger on Nov 5, 2005 20:53:23 GMT
so kidatherra put your self in ther shoes for a second right now your probly think what the heck now aint ya just hear me out... say you live your life you play and grow up with your cousin right the more time you spend witha person you tend to develop feelings for them now over a period you fall in love and you realise shes your soul mate literally and you cant live without them wud it stil be wrong then...? i know in other religions it happens i hope i dont offend anyone but muslims are renown for doing that i apoligse if if do i dont mean to just putting a point across as an example to kidtherra!
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Post by Bunnypie on Nov 5, 2005 22:14:28 GMT
^^lmao@both of U..... u 2 r beginnin 2 sound like married couple.
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Post by lilsaj on Nov 5, 2005 22:39:31 GMT
Mirza Sahiba, the legendary lovers, the ones with many songs named after them...
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Post by kidterra on Nov 6, 2005 2:37:46 GMT
Bunny me and tiger r having a serious debate.
Tiger dude seriously what u said, u can NEVER EVER even get close 2 having feelings like that 4 cousins, its wrong, they like bro and sis, and if peeps get OTHER feelings than i think they need 2 step back and check themselves. SERIOUSLY dude, having THOSE feelings bout COUSINS is wrong, like is said b4 eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Dude im gettin worried coz u talkin like u going through this S#!t.
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Post by Desi Tiger on Nov 6, 2005 11:29:06 GMT
Bunny me and tiger r having a serious debate. Tiger dude seriously what u said, u can NEVER EVER even get close 2 having feelings like that 4 cousins, its wrong, they like bro and sis, and if peeps get OTHER feelings than i think they need 2 step back and check themselves. SERIOUSLY dude, having THOSE feelings bout COUSINS is wrong, like is said b4 eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Dude im gettin worried coz u talkin like u going through this nuts. bunny is geeza gettin interesting finally some1 to have a propa debate with... 1st man i aint definalty goin thru nuffin like that im just tryin to put you in there position to c how you wud react to that right how you think other pepps feel i mean unless they find someone of ther own they literally have to marry thjer cuzin (refering to other religions) not offending anyone once apoligse if i do dont mean to... i mean, oki kidatherra you sed u can never get that sorta feeling for your cuzin lemmi put it anoda way i dont wana sound offensive now so plz dont take it rong way oki... say you were a muslim and your family plaaned to get to married to your cuzin what wud you do then i no you aint that situation but if you were unless you had someone of your own ud wud hav no choice i mean unless they disowned you i heard it happen b4 im only talkin hypethically. and no im sikh just to clarify and i aint goin thru nuffin like this i just find it interesting you call it inbreeding yeh it is but what wud you do? i know in some cases its lead to serious family issues some one on the news the otherday got stabbed 46 times a mulim guy for fallin in love with a gal hus family dint apporve.sad relly man.
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Post by kidterra on Nov 6, 2005 15:34:36 GMT
even if i was muslim, i woulds stiil be man enuff 2 stand up and say i aint marrying my cousins, there are muslims who know this is messed up and dont do it, but there are still alot who go on like nothings wrong, i know dat 4 a fact. Bout dat dude who got killed, he made the girl pregnent, also we dont get the full story, the dad and brothers were looking outr for thier girl. Bout inbreeding, i think this subject is a case of inbreeding, what else is it when u having sex with yo first cousins.
if u think this is messed up, what bout this, in certain religions, aint naming any coz might b 2 contreversial, on the wedding night the father of the groom will actually sleep with the bride first b4 the groom, now what u think of dat.
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Post by Bunnypie on Nov 6, 2005 22:13:21 GMT
^6...so are u both saying that u aint got a femaile cousin...who u see and thing....'she's fit'??.... coz if I honest i have got gud lookin males cousins.... not sayin id marry them...but i do admit they r FIT!!!!
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Post by Desi Tiger on Nov 7, 2005 0:17:22 GMT
NOT RELLY DEPENDS WHAT UR INTERPREATION OF THE WORD FIT IS?
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Post by kidterra on Nov 7, 2005 0:44:10 GMT
seriously bunny u r kind slow, of course we got female cousins, and there are some who u can look at and say ''she's good looking'', but we on about marriage/sex with cousins. Theres nothing wrong with thinking ur cousins are good looking peeps.
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Post by Bunnypie on Nov 7, 2005 12:19:28 GMT
^^...course there is....they r still ur family......u shudnt b lookin at them in that way.... its jus as bad as marrying them... and knowin u kidterra.... u prob go home and fantasize bout them
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Post by Desi Tiger on Nov 7, 2005 12:57:19 GMT
WHAT THE HECKKKK!!!!! BUNNY YOU BOUGHT IT UP YOU SED YOU THINK YOUR CUZINS ARE FIT SO DOES HE NOW YOUR CONTRODICTING YOUR SELF SAYIN IT WRONG SO IT ALRIGHT FOR A KURI BUT NOT FOR A GUY? ? BUT THAT TAKING IT TOO FAR FLIPPIN HELL THTAS DISCUSTING I CANT BELIEVE YOU EVEN WROTE THAT ERGHHHHHHHH....."FANTASIZE BUT THEM" THAT JUST WRONGGGG!
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Post by lilsaj on Nov 7, 2005 15:30:23 GMT
Just becus u know ur cousin is good looking, doesnt mean u auto think that omg i wanna be with them :S
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Post by kidterra on Nov 7, 2005 16:30:27 GMT
bunny u boght that up, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, ur the 1 who fantasises bout ur cuz/s, guys can u believe her.
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Post by Bunnypie on Nov 7, 2005 19:53:57 GMT
^^.... i wasn tlkin bout myslf...and dt if u go bk and read the last few posts on this page u will see that i sed it is wrong if u actualy ACT upon those thoughts... i didnt say its wrong jus HAVIN the thoughts coz I have them.....
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Post by Bunnypie on Nov 7, 2005 19:55:11 GMT
^^...also i was tlkin 2 a girl at work 2day..who is muslim.... she isnt married yet but said that when he parents do start lookin 4 boys they wil go thru the suitable first cousins.,...if no luck go thru the 2nd cousins etc etc...but NOT go out of the family...now thats not her fault...jus the way her family/religion r...
i mean its the same with the way gore think that arranged marriages r weird....
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Post by Desi Tiger on Nov 7, 2005 21:56:56 GMT
Just becus u know ur cousin is good looking, doesnt mean u auto think that omg i wanna be with them :S YEH BUT BRO I NEVA SED THAT!
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