INDIAN PEOPLES IMMIGRANT IN ABROAD

[Samar]

HI GUYS THIS IS DEBATE ABT INDIAN PEOPLES WHO IMMIGRANT IN ABROAD . I SAW MANY GUYS WHO BELONG TO RURAL INDIAN VILLAGES AND THEIR BACKGROUND IS VERY RURAL BUT WHEN THEY IMMIGRANT TO ABROAD (U.K. U.S. CANADA) I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY TRY TO MAKE WHITE AND THEY TRY TO DO SAME JOB LIKE WHITE GUYS. THEY REALLY FORGET THEIR RELIGION AND CULTURE. ALL THIS HAPPEN IN ONLY ONE YEAR.
THIS TIME WHITE GUYS THEY ARE ATTRACTIVE ON INDIAN CULTURE AND RELIGION. THEY JOIN YOGA, ACCEPT OUR RELIGION. ALL THINGS WHAT WE DO. I KNOW MANY WHITE GUYS WHO LOVE TO INDIAN CULTURE. I HAVE GOOD EXAMPLE IN MY FAMILY. MY BROTHER-IN-LAW IS WHITE AND HE IS CAN READ HINDI, SANSKRIT, HE IS MASTER IN YOGA, AND GOES TO TEMPLE AND GURUDWARA, HE KNOWS ASTROLOGY. HE HAS ALSO AYURVEDA MEDICAL DEGREE AND NOW HE IS DOING MEDICAL M.B.B.S IN CALIFORNIA. SO IF THEY CAN ACCEPT OUR RELIGION WHY WE DON'T KEEP OUR CULTURER VALUES?

[kidterra]

dude i think we do keep our culture alive, sont generalise, desi's in the west aint punks.

[Bunnypie]

^^gud point hun

[kidterra]

ye i know. lolllll

. Samar u preach bout cultural values, n ur sister is married 2 a white dude, look closer 2 home man.

[Samar]

Dude that’s good question.

I know what you think. Look…… after made marry with white guy he involved in our culture but we did not involve their culture and now his family is also celebrate our festivals like Diwali, Dushehra, even Karvachoth fast too. So reason to make marry with white guy I saw so many pujnbai guys mostly are alcoholic smoker and they do many things. We (I and you) better know about guys what they do in their regular life. you don’t think that u r only involved in this debate I have many friends those has been changed while come to abroad. You told me that I should look closer 2 home. first you tell me how many guys you know those are modern, educated as well as non smoker non alcoholic and they keep to their culture? I think god is one and whole world is son of the one god (like ek omkar). No body diffrent to others. Only our habits and culture makes diffrent to other peoples. So I have kept my culture and I involved one family in our culture. You tell me about your self how many people u changed? I think you too try to accept western culture. But I am not saying that western culture is wrong but we should carry too our religious values and we should't forget to our past. I wanna just say that why we forget our culture and religion while come to abroad? Why we can’t keep our culture values in western? Is this possible we keep both? And make good human.
Friend we are not fighting for any dispute and do not want to get any award of this debate but tell me is this right or wrong?

[kidterra]

samar u generalise too much. Not all punjabi guys r alcholics and players. There are alot of white guys who do things that a punjabi guys would never do, white MEN are not perfect, u should come 2 england and see how white peoplw behave, NO CLASS. I thank god im punjabi and not white, people in india have this image of white western people being educated, perfect and modern, no they aint, ALOT of white people are TRAILOR TRASH, indian culture is much more richer then white culture. SO STOP BANGING ON ABOUT YOUR WHITE BROTHER IN LAW BEING THIS PERFECT MAN, BECAUSE THERE ALOT OF PUNJABI MEN WHO R ALSO EDUCATED, INTELLIGENT ETC.

You keep on saying how your brother in law has joined in your culture and your beliefs, SO WHAT. DESI PEOPLE in the west have joined in2 western scoiety and made contributions, give us credit 4 that.

Punjabi guys drink and smoke, so what, chill, but that doesent mean we dont follow our religion and culture. I drink, but i know all about my culture, as do alot of people, WE FOLLOW OUR CULTURE.

U seem 2 think that desis in the west have suddenly forgot about religion and culture, THEY HAVENT, we are proud of our culture, WE DONT WANT 2 B WHITE AMERICANS, CANADIANS ETC, we R proud 2 b what we r, like i said, WE REALISE THAT OUR CULTURE AND HISTORY IS SOMETHING THAT THE WEST CAN NEVER MATCH.

[Samar]

kidterra I am happy to hear you. I suppose that you are really good guy and you know to culture values. Don’t think that I am representing to my bro-in-law. I just gave example that some people carrying our culture but we forget and 2nd is I am not saying that all whites are good or I am not doing comparison between white and Punjabi. Dude I just want to tell that if we leave to our country so we shouldn’t leave too our culture.
Hey I am not saying that drinking is bad. May be you saw also in this site forum mostly guys n gals try to be white. You also see to Punjabi singers and Dj’s on TV channels they also try to be black rapper. You know what is bad habit in our Punjabi peoples? They always think about copy of others. They don’t have their own creative mind. I am also Punjabi. they copy of English music n their rap style, dress code etc. Is It not good if all white n black guys copy of our all things? You imagine how would you feel?


Always Singh is King.

[kidterra]

the black rapper thing is act. Bout clothes, its western fashions, what rappers wear, the brands they wear, people on the street want 2 wear. Th djs and producers r not trying 2 b black, thats the culture 2 which they associate 2, for example, i went 2 a black school, no indians, went 2 a black college, no indians, all my friends have been black, i wear similar clothes 2 them, talk like them, and do things they do, but that doesent mean i have forgotten my culture.

[Samar]

I am not talking about there born. First you just see my topic heading what I written there. It debate for those peoples who came from Indian rural villages for immigration and change there culture within 2-3 year. You know this type people what they do while go to India? They ware very heavy gold to show they came from abroad. One thing is special in foreign return they must have ear rings. When they talk with peoples they use slang in their language “hahahha ” But they forget their past two or three years when they live in India.

[Samar]

HEY MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN WHO IS KUKA?

[kidterra]

samar ji, u tell us who kuka is, i dont know, why, what does he do?

[Samar]

lol i also don't know that who is kuka, thats y asked here LOL

[bham da jatt]

guys really good read this thread, hope u dont mind me adding to it.

personally, think uve both got valid points. i totally agree with kidterra, i do believe as Panjabis, we r one of the culture that is most proud of being Panjabi. our values r so rich and there is so much stuff we do which brings light within our lives, all thanks to our culture. things like weddings, all the traditions. if it wasnt for our culture, they would not be as fun as they r.

i do also think that samar is right, but lie kidterra says, its never good to generalise. forgive me for doing myself, but jus to put an example. whenever u go to parties, like xmas parties, the only 2 thing that the english community seem to talk about is 1. Alcohol, and 2. Sex!

id say im a Panjabi at heart and really proud to be, n as kiderra says, not all of them are bad. i dont drink, smoke...never touched either of them. n id like to think im doin well in my career also.

the most important thing is that i believe im not the only one, but there r so many of my panjabi bros n sis that i have the campanionship of.

[kidterra]

i fink samar jus thinks that once indians move 2 the west, they become too westernised at the expense of there own culture, which i disagree with.

Also, nothing wrong with drinking and smoking, i drink, dont smoke ciggs but i have the odd cuban cigar, dont make me a bad person.

[bham da jatt]

umm...not sure what to say, can only give my own opinion.

i agree with u that movin to the west does not make u westnerised automatically, a lot of ppl r hardcore into their traditions n culture, n id like to think im one of them.

as for drinking n smoking, well i guess u ask urself from which angle to see it. if u look from it in a sikhi way then i guess it does doesnt it? as its against the religion??

but jus cuz a person i know smokes n its against our religion, that makes no reason to judge them on that. when it comes to religion ive always thought that ppl r on their own path which they should travel at their own pace, thats the beauty of Sikhi isnt it?

if i saw a fellow sikh brother or sister smoking, i wouldnt say anything to her about y r u smoking. but if they asked "is it right or wrong according to our religion" i wouldnt say "its right. id say its wrong n give the reasons for y i think our religion says its wrong....its about being honest hunna.

[JaTT]

erm dont get me wrong but whats the MBBS degree gota do with anything? These days most doctors aint people i would look upto in society they may be educated in only BIOLOGY not commen sense and about the world...the good old doctors are old and near retirement..todays lot just mostly do it for the money or the "im a doctor" label...then again some exceptions.... .

[samarb]

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[realjatti]

People choose wat they wanna be...westernized or not! noone forces u to think in a particluar way,its just how easily u can get affected by the people and things around you.Same abt the smokin/drinkin issue..u make the choices urself and then face the consequences urself.so there is no right or wrong!

[grant]

kidterra said:

u should come 2 england and see how white peoplw behave, NO CLASS. I thank god im punjabi and not white, people in india have this image of white western people being educated, perfect and modern, no they aint, ALOT of white people are TRAILOR TRASH, indian culture is much more richer then white culture. SO STOP BANGING ON ABOUT YOUR WHITE BROTHER IN LAW BEING THIS PERFECT MAN, BECAUSE THERE ALOT OF PUNJABI MEN WHO R ALSO EDUCATED, INTELLIGENT ETC.

LOLZ u critiise him 4 generalising punjabis so what exactly r u doin with whites in that post hmm

u say we dont have any class..go out on a friday or saturday night...EVERYBODY acts the same!!! nobody is better than the other and ur an idiot if u think that and a small minded racist 2 so get other urself im sick of ppl like u who fink ur 'supremacist' or summat just as i hate whites and blacks who think that to

every1 is equal, and whether u think sum1 is trash is irrelevant, cos nobodies race is perfect so dont make out urs is either

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