Ravidassis/chamiars trying to separate from sikhs

[londonLIONjatt]

OK, so I was watching Sikh Channel, and there was a live programme today about Ravidassis.

Here are some things I heard:

There is a dera, the dera with the sants that got shot in Vienna.
This dera started a movement to remove Adi Guru Granth Sahib from Ravidass Gurdwaras/temples.
Mistreatment by gurdwaras of chamiars and other backgrounds associated with being low-caste is allowing this movement to capitalise on the Ravidassi sangat. They are not being allowed to have a voice in gurdwaras and committees.
Some people have left completely, and have converted to Christianity, however this problem is not limited to Ravidassis.

A temple in Spain has already removed Guru Granth Sahib.

This has not happened in UK Ravidass gurdwaras, this is due to the strong link with sikhi that many UK Ravidassis feel. However:

Many UK Ravidass Gurdwaras don't want to be known as gurdwaras, and instead wish to be called temple, sabhas, or bhavans. This is visible on the signs displayed by the Gurdwaras.

So, that is what I saw on the tv station, I didn't know things were this bad!?!

[Kamlee]

Over last few years there have been to many offshoots of Sikhi & it's getting more & more common.

Saw 1 last week on TV to, but i never paid attention to it

The thing is, I think some people have moved away from the Gurdwaras because of all the politics, & that's helped these so called sects & baba's to get away with things & set there own version of Sikhi up.

[Kela Jatt Da]

What are we trying to be like muslims now with the 800 different sects? Damn lol.

[yoyo maple syrupjeet]

this is linked to punjabi folk singers

they sing about castes n stuff n that causes people to seperate out compared to how it was like 25 years ago.

then these folkooz wear khandas while screamin about caste this n caste that and sikhs just stand around sayin nothing. well then we deserve it.

when I say bhindranwale wanted the folk singers out of punjab Im not kidding. watever u thiink about the man, he did predict this.

you got idiiots like shamsher sandhu writing songs about this caste is higher then this caste n bullS#!t and they get recognition at the gurudwaras by bhaijis, bhaijis need to be kicked out back to india.

those idiots need to learn how to speak n write fluently in english if they wannta come to america as religious workers.


kick em all out if they dont speak english

[rennusharma]

That would be a good movie I suppose..there are fab things about it..