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Post by S11NGH on Jul 13, 2007 10:24:40 GMT
Mate only YOU would understand the Bedford ways...people from QP are corrupt, the mullars and this is the kind of thing they would do...well not as extreme as this but along the lines of it! You should keep alert. Or next thing we'll know, our very own Twinklejeet will be setting up home in Pakistan purchasing all the counterfit Bhangra CDs (I don't know what a Mullar is... but yeah )
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Post by 56 on Jul 13, 2007 10:26:34 GMT
I am carefull, I mean I do talk to anyone no matter what race age or sex! But the thing is, some "mullars" are just..you know, messed up! Not all just some, they do love to convert girls thou....
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Post by amriksingh on Jul 13, 2007 10:47:11 GMT
a teacher/ lecturer in a mosque
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Post by 56 on Jul 13, 2007 10:48:56 GMT
this is not my definition of the word, how ever i have told him what i mean..thanks thou
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Post by bhatinda on Aug 29, 2007 3:00:05 GMT
nuff respect @ngel for tryin to make a difference....dun pay ne attention to these haters.....ur spreadin the word bout wha is happenin in our community and even if one person reads wha u have to say and thinks twice bout goin out with a muslim....uve done ur job......the rest of these fools try to ignore it, like it aint a big deal......either cuz they scared or cuz they dun give a S#!t........but as sikhs its our responsibility to hellp each other out.....whether it be a MUSIC site or wutever......and fYI this is the "world" forum, so u pretty much free to do post wutever....once again nuff respect for wha u doin.....u makin a difference.....keep ya head up.....peace
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2007 19:56:58 GMT
im sorry they deserved it (not the being raped n beaten up bit, but the being disowned by everyone). there a people out there in the world that deserve much more sympathy than them.
i know this sounds cold, but i can understand this girl moving in the wtih guy and getting close to his family n everything, but to be so stupid to actually go to pakistan with the dude. its rediculous.
i wouldnt even go to flipping kfc with the pr!*k let alone pakistan. oh my sisters are there, well wtf f**kkk are u doing in uk if u love pakistan so much u lil shyt. you someone in my family not naming anyone wasnt as stupid as these girls, she went with her friend who was going to meet a muslim mate of hers he brought a friend too, he complimented her eyes (she wore coloured lens) she started meeting him up all he used to do was drive her to a golf course where the car park was kinda isolated and try to have sex with her.
after 2 weeks she finally decided to sleep with him and after then he never spoke to her, he even borrowed £40 from her and never paid her back.
they are just after one thing, its just sick, never believe a muslim when he give u a compliment coz he just wants to sleep with u.
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Post by Ghost... on Aug 29, 2007 20:02:28 GMT
dont like pakis.
end of
then again, who does?
f**king saps, the lot of them
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2007 20:06:44 GMT
i know so many muslims that say to me they would rather be sikh or hindu, coz they find the tradition more meaningful and a lot of them hate fasting for eid.
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Post by priya87 on Aug 29, 2007 20:28:11 GMT
I had two muslim frds they were so rude to me, What happended was during the summmer holidays last yr they both decided to go to a theme park with University and I said I have got a family party to go to so I can't go, so after I told them they kept txting me and swearing at me and saying u never come out with us this and that how can I go out. I catch a bus to everyday to Unversity and my last bus is at 17:10pm so it is hard for me to travel home cause I have to catch the last bus. BTW I go 2 Buckinghamshire Chilterns Unversity College in High Wycombe.
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Post by sukh87 on Aug 29, 2007 20:34:15 GMT
dont like pakis. end of then again, who does? f**king saps, the lot of them I dont mind em
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2007 20:35:38 GMT
say to them shut up now everyones a skank whorrrrrre like u 2
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Post by amriksingh on Aug 29, 2007 21:25:11 GMT
come n jindero, you get the few militant ones, there not all bad
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Post by Ghost... on Aug 29, 2007 21:29:07 GMT
MOST are.
i know ONE thas ai, and thas it!
bare safe banda!
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Post by amriksingh on Aug 29, 2007 21:30:06 GMT
lol
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Post by sukh87 on Aug 29, 2007 22:44:42 GMT
I know alot of bad sikhs
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Post by zahrah786 on Aug 29, 2007 23:19:44 GMT
f**k U ALL FROM A PAKI!!!!
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Post by YOGRAJ on Aug 30, 2007 0:45:41 GMT
f**k U ALL FROM A PAKI!!!! LOL...why u crying? most of u paki's prob chat about sikhs in a bad way..
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Post by sukh87 on Aug 30, 2007 9:15:45 GMT
f**k U ALL FROM A PAKI!!!! Are you fit?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 10:05:31 GMT
lol blabla
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Post by 56 on Aug 30, 2007 11:20:22 GMT
dont like pakis. end of then again, who does? f**king saps, the lot of them point made, end of this thread! lol @ from a paki and blahahahahahahaha!
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Post by shalin on Sept 12, 2007 4:05:46 GMT
f**k U ALL FROM A PAKI!!!! some people have nothing better to do than to chat sh*t about muslims...the same old rhetoric i wouldn't be surprised if in real life, they're all buddy buddy with indian and pakistani muslims don't take these dumb comments personally...wAllahu 'alim
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Post by bhatinda on Sept 12, 2007 19:30:14 GMT
"wAllahu 'alim "......yo r u choking? ?
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Post by shalin on Sept 13, 2007 16:26:31 GMT
^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOLLLLL
right.
There are people who say similar crap about saying Sat Sri Akal, so your attempt to be funny rather fails. Then again, those who do find it funny...it says a lot about their intelligence.
I don't see how if members on this board are able to chat all the sh*t they want about people of other faiths (keep in mind that the majority of Punjabis in this world are not Sikh) and pass it off as just chatting sh*t about "Pakis"...why can't a non-Sikh use a non-offensive religious phrase? Where is the necessity in attempting to poke fun at it?
Here we have people talk about their 'bad' encounters with Muslims. That obviously gives way to (and seemingly justifies) the usage of immature statements like "f*ck Pakis" or "I hate Pakis" or "I hate Muslims" and so on and so on. As BlaBlaBla stated, he's come across a lot of bad Sikhs as well. He might as well be a Sikh himself, but isn't denying the fact that many people who share his own faith CAN do wrong. He isn't following along with the trend of self-victimization. Why always point the finger elsewhere? At the same time, who is anyone to judge who a good person or a bad person is? Not even your actions can fully judge that...because only one knows what's inside of you. You call him Waheguru. I along with all Muslims, Arab Christians and Arab Jews call him Allah.
Justifying the things that have been said here, by saying "oh everyone else does it too!!" is just as pathetic as you drinking because your friends do it. Oh, wait...isn't drinking forbidden in Sikhism as well?
It doesn't make it right to do/say something idiotic just because you think that the 'opposition' is doing it as well. Where's the maturity in that? Unless maturity is now not so important anymore...I mean, it's so much easier to just go along with everyone and become bigots. I see the same crap in a few Muslims I know, when it comes to Jews and Hindus...but you attempt to show a better alternative or break off from any ignorance.
I won't sit here and curse everyone out, nor will I pretend to "speak out for Muslims" by saying that "not all Muslims are like that" or anything of the sort. That's exactly what non-Muslims expect, especially here in the States. They expect some "moderate" (who the hell is anyone to use that word to label someone of another faith?) Muslim to come up and just become an apologist, and say "yes there are fundamentalists and extremists but Islam is not like that, and these FEW are just misinterpreting the Qur'an"....no. Being a fundamentalist means that you follow the fundamentals of your faith. Anyone who does wrong is knowingly doing it, and it has nothing to do with religion, no matter what invocation is made.
Nobody needs to tell you that a religion is not to blame for the actions of a few of its followers. That's bullcrap and you know it. If I were to say anything about Sikhs, you'll have people saying that Sikhism doesn't teach that, that not all Sikhs hate everyone that is not a Sikh, and not all want to destroy both India and Pakistan. Any bad encounter you have...those people don't represent anyone but themselves. That is an individual and only an individual's actions, whether or not it be a Muslim. But first impressions (especially when pressed through media, family, friends, etc.) are quick to make you forever judge others...it's just up to you to be smart.
Why is it that when you come across white Brits or white Americans, barely anyone goes and says "these Christians/Protestants/Atheists...i hate them" or anything of that sort? Brits like to label every brown person as a Paki. Americans like to label every brown person as a Hindu (as though that's a race). Canadians...well...they're just weird. Are people blind enough to not realize that every so-called "Paki" is practically the same skin color as you and shares the same roots as you do? The majority of Pakistan is Punjabi. You have the Sindhi, Kashmiri, Pathan, Gujarati, Bihari, Hyderabadi (IN), Balochi, Kachchi, Bangla, etc., populations there as well, but hint hint...they all exist in India as well.
The Muslims who were even in relationships and did anything deplorable...they should've known better because no Muslim should be in a relationship with anyone before marriage, and men and women are not allowed to be touching anyone of the opposite sex if it is not someone in your family. They shouldn't be drinking, nor should they be going to clubs since no Muslim should even be at the same table as a glass of any intoxicating beverage or pill. No Muslim should be deceiving others or cover up ill intentions with false innocence. That is all forbidden. If they'd rather renounce their faith, that's their problem. These are the actions of an individual, not something that should be generalized as being what MUSLIMS do or did.
Oh, by the way...to the girl who said that nobody should get into a relationship with a Muslim, you're right. Nobody should because that is disrespect of a faith, especially if you're dressed like a sl*t and trying to lead people on. Even if you're not, you should probably tell the Muslims you come across that they should know better, whether it be a girl or guy, to not be doing things that are haram.
Go ahead though...continue to feed into that religious rift that's created. Notice how the majority of this so-called Sikh/Muslim animosity (incl. the remaining sympathy for the Khalistani movement) and the distrust is found mainly in the West, in cities in NA and the UK with large mixed Desi populations. We're all fed this from birth, regardless of religious denomination or ethnicity. Even my family does it, and I hate it. We're all led to feel like we've gotta stand out, be tough, represent ourselves, create divisions, lose all common sense, that excuse of being "proud of where we come from", etc. It's just that. Pride.
Pride leads to ignorance and arrogance, and every time someone who "isn't like you" does anything, you feel the need to separate yourself from them in some way, shape, form or fashion. Usually, that division is formed along religious lines when it comes to Desis. And half the people who do this...they turn religion from faith into race.
Bhatinda...not that you would actually give a crap, but wallahu 'alim means "and God knows best". No, I didn't choke while saying that. In fact, learning the Arabic language is actually good for you. Arabic requires you to breathe more throughout sentences, so when you go and speak in English to someone (in person), the tone and flexibility of your voice improves.
Shabash puttar. There's your lesson of the day.
Rant over. Call it an essay or a pile of bs if you want, but hopefully someone got something out of it.
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Post by amriksingh on Sept 13, 2007 20:00:17 GMT
*yawns*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2007 22:32:50 GMT
actually maybe on of the muslim members could answer this for me.
when someone says paki why do u find it offensive? coz its just short for pakistani plus even pakistani say it to each other.
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