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Post by multitonerecords on Jul 13, 2008 20:35:51 GMT
^^^^shmashed ittttttttttttttttttttttt sooo can we like end this thread now...cuz...as I have proven...if you are anything but a brahmin...(most bhangra listeners are not)...you have no right claiming pride in your caste..and as guru nanak de ji said...ek jot te sab jagg upjaya, kaun bhaley kaun mandhey...and if your parents tell u different..tell them to stuff it
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Post by Ghost... on Jul 13, 2008 21:39:48 GMT
^^
baman*
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Post by multitonerecords on Jul 13, 2008 21:45:57 GMT
my bed....baman....my oxford punjabi/english dictionary is out of date
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Post by princess on Jul 13, 2008 22:13:07 GMT
ya tru we do not belive in caste system...bt dats what all desis here belive in....jutts just marry other jutts...cuz if not den MORE DRAMA in da family....likewise with the other caste....
n when i said jutt are highest.....i was excluding all da hindu shyt...
FOR SIKHS Jatt Khatri and arora and rajput Thurkhan luhar etc chumar choora
FOR HINDUS brahmin kathri baniya, chamar
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Post by Ghost... on Jul 13, 2008 22:24:08 GMT
^^
true about the more drama.
wat u mean "for sikhs"?
ur sikh arent u? what caste are u?
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Post by princess on Jul 13, 2008 22:27:04 GMT
yes i am sikh....n im jutt
n i meant ders a difference between how sikhs and hindus see der "sapposedly" caste system crap....
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Post by Ghost... on Jul 13, 2008 22:28:14 GMT
so u aint sikh.
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Post by multitonerecords on Jul 13, 2008 22:31:25 GMT
ya tru we do not belive in caste system...bt dats what all desis here belive in....jutts just marry other jutts...cuz if not den MORE DRAMA in da family....likewise with the other caste.... n when i said jutt are highest.....i was excluding all da hindu shyt... FOR SIKHS Jatt Khatri and arora and rajput Thurkhan luhar etc chumar choora omggggg what kinda of BullS#!t is thisssssssssssssssss Their is no..caste system in sikhs... sikhs dont have a caste system What the freakkkkkkkkkkkkkk who the hell gave you this information id like to pound their head into the concrete guru nanak states "manas ki jaat sabhey ekkehi pehchanbo" (all of mankind is one caste) and if the gurus wanted to make a caste system...why wouldnt they put..khatri at the top as they were all khatri..duh all of mankind is one thats the fundamental basis behind sikhi hell ...it can be said..its the purpose of sikhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii somebody's brainwashing you bigtimmmmmmmmmme with pure BS
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Post by princess on Jul 13, 2008 22:38:03 GMT
well yes dat is TRUE....I NOE WAT GURU NANAK STATES....U ACT LIKE I DONT GO GURDWARA OR SOMETHING?!?!?!?!!?
DATS WHY IF U PUT UR GLASSES ON N READ I SAID I SAID .. "S A P P O S E D L Y"........HELLLO
N KHARTA ARE SEEN AS BUSINESS PPL...BT STILL BELOW JUTTS....GO ASK UR MOM SMARTONE....
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Post by princess on Jul 13, 2008 22:39:11 GMT
N YES I AM SIKH!!!!
HELLLO MY LAST NAMES JOHAL....IM SIKH...JUTT....!!!!!!!
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Post by realtonerecords on Jul 13, 2008 22:46:44 GMT
easy there. waheeguroo is rajput kahtri so i guess that makes you jutt subhuman.
note before 1920 the vast majority of sikh institutions were dominated by rajput khatri. the chosen people
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Post by multitonerecords on Jul 13, 2008 22:49:03 GMT
well yes dat is TRUE....I NOE WAT GURU NANAK STATES....U ACT LIKE I DONT GO GURDWARA OR SOMETHING?!?!?!?!!? DATS WHY IF U PUT UR GLASSES ON N READ I SAID I SAID .. "S A P P O S E D L Y"........HELLLO N KHARTA ARE SEEN AS BUSINESS PPL...BT STILL BELOW JUTTS....GO ASK UR MOM SMARTONE.... no, according to the hindu system you believe in...khatri (kshatrya) is above jatt...just scroll down a little..i put the chart as my sig for this reason....it certainly is no use in going to guruduwara if you believe in the hindu system..try attending mandir...more in line with your parents views
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Post by princess on Jul 14, 2008 3:26:59 GMT
ok well i asked my mom again.....n she asked my uncle....so ya here it goes
JUTT IS HIGHEST.....TRUE ONE OF OUR GURUS WAS BORN IN A KHATRI FAMILY....NOT DENYING DAT.....BUT WITHOUT JUTTS....KHATRIS CANNOT SURVIVE....BECAUSE WE GIVE THEM THE FOOD THEY ATE....SO WITHOUT US....THEY WOULD BE ALL DEAD...NEXT POINT....[[[[[THATS WHY DER ARE NOT SO MANY OR MANY AT ALLLL LEFT (KHATRIS)]]]]]]]]] OK SINCE DATS CLEARED UP.....ABOUT THE RUJPUTS....f**k HINDUS....THEY THINK W.E. THEY WANT.....N THAT TERM IS USED FOR RAJASTANI PEOPLE....U NOE THE OTHER STATE NEXT TO PUNJAB....WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RUJPUTS IN SIKHISM....I MEAN I NEVER EVEN HEARD ABOUT THAT ....HAVE U EVEN MET A RUJPUT?!?!!?~!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO N YA IN RAJISTAN....THEY DO HAVE THAT [KHATRI] AS A CASTE AS WELL A CASTE OF [JuTT] LOWER THAN THEM.....BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME FOR SIKH
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Post by multitonerecords on Jul 14, 2008 3:50:53 GMT
ok well i asked my mom again.....n she asked my uncle....so ya here it goes JUTT IS HIGHEST.....TRUE ONE OF OUR GURUS WAS BORN IN A KHATRI FAMILY....NOT DENYING DAT.....BUT WITHOUT JUTTS....KHATRIS CANNOT SURVIVE....BECAUSE WE GIVE THEM THE FOOD THEY ATE....SO WITHOUT US....THEY WOULD BE ALL DEAD...NEXT POINT....[[[[[THATS WHY DER ARE NOT SO MANY OR MANY AT ALLLL LEFT (KHATRIS)]]]]]]]]] OK SINCE DATS CLEARED UP.....ABOUT THE RUJPUTS....f**k HINDUS....THEY THINK W.E. THEY WANT.....N THAT TERM IS USED FOR RAJASTANI PEOPLE....U NOE THE OTHER STATE NEXT TO PUNJAB....WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RUJPUTS IN SIKHISM....I MEAN I NEVER EVEN HEARD ABOUT THAT ....HAVE U EVEN MET A RUJPUT?!?!!?~!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO N YA IN RAJISTAN....THEY DO HAVE THAT [KHATRI] AS A CASTE AS WELL A CASTE OF [JuTT] LOWER THAN THEM.....BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME FOR SIKH not one...but all gurus were khatri..if you want to committ the sin of assigning them castes.............................................................. I have family friends..who are rajput sikh...dont tell me they dont exist.... im sorry to tell you...but your uncle is an idiot of the highest form...delusional to the max..and im not surprised since u live in bay area....ever since I moved here I have heard of this...sikh caste system...crap mythology which has been circling..ur not the first person I have heard this from... Sikhiism is against grouping people end of ur uncle and you are hindu......accept it stop going to the gurudwara..and tell him and your mom to do the same... while ur at it..stop going to the vocation school..community college you are attending..cuz their is just nothing...but emptiness in their...you know what I mean...godddd..gave us gooogle...use it..stead of your unle in the chaddi banain...spoutin off whatever he dreams up
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Post by AAG on Jul 14, 2008 4:35:22 GMT
To use the term "Hindu shyt" is pure disrespectful. Treat other people how you would like to be treated and speak of other peoples religions with just as much respect as you would expect when someone else speaks of your religion.
Castes are more to do with culture than to do with religion, most/all religious figures treated everyone equally, therefore, a caste system in a religion would just contradict itself.
No one on Earth is higher or lower than one another in the eyes of God, everyone will be treated equally before going to heaven or hell.
God does not care about castes.
Caste systems are just wrong, we have enough problems as it is with different religions clashing for the wrong reasons, why would one want to argue with someone from the same religion?
Most/All religious figures spoke of unity and peace, spoke of coexistance, spoke of respecting one another....So why are we all forgetting this and focussing on the negatives and traditions/cultures which teach us different?
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Post by multitonerecords on Jul 14, 2008 4:44:50 GMT
^^^^I agree with you totally aag....using derogatory words to describe other religions shows a complete lack of proper upbringing.....its the result of the folk hop culture that has flourished in places like Vancouver, bay area...etc...where Khandas are just fashion accesories and nothing more.....it seems bay area....is the hub of racist Punjabis...they have made it their home away from home..nothing but a bunch of posers alot like those two clowns jazzy and shinda..who are the furthest thing from sikhs.
I dont think their is anything wrong with anyone believing in the caste system....as it exists in Hinduism...however they should own up to it..and follow it..and not hide...or fake out..other people....when someone says they are sikh..by default it means..they do not differentiate people simply by their birth
I have friends who are hindu, believe in the caste system to some degree...and attend the mandir regularly...in their worldview...the caste system makes sense and has a function...and they accept the fact that they follow it...same goes for believing in astrological forecasts n stuff...its in their religion..I respect it...but when some sikh tells me...that you can only do such n such things on certain days...I seriously want to tell them...that their going to the gurudwara is pointless..they are just blowing fuel on the trip..cuz they aint taking anything home accept for the leftover langar
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Post by princess on Jul 14, 2008 5:32:43 GMT
ok aag....first of i have no hate against no religion...i go out wit a muslim...im just tellin u guys what ive heard....n its said if ones heard...so has 10 others...and 10 more....n on n on....N YA I REALLY DONT CARE IF I CUSS OR NOT...WOW BIG DEAL...GET OVER IT...I THINK WE ARE ALL ADULTS....SHYT...f**k...
N FOR multitonerecord OR W.E. TALK ALL DA SHYT U WANT...CUZ I PERSONALLY DONT GIVE A f**k....N YES I KNOW THEY WERE ALL BORN INTO KHARTI FAMILYS...SORRY TYPO....BT YA BRING THOSE FAMILIES OVER HERE...CUZ NO INDIAN I NOE HAS SEEN A SIKH...PUNJAB...RAJPUT....
N FOR UR INFO I DONT LIVE IN DA BAY....OR GO COMMUNITY COLLEGE HOBO...SO GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE U TALK SHYT....N I DONT WANT TO BE A HYPOCRIT...SO FOR ALL THOSE WHO READ MY BULLENTINS EARLIER.....YA I DID GET MY INFO WRONG AT FIRST...BT EITHER WAY JUTT """"WOULD BE CONSIDERED ON TOP"""""....OK....N I RATHER GET THE REAL FACTS FROM PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVED DER MOST DER LIVES UNLIKE U....
N DA WHOLE THING ABOUT GOOGLE...HAHAHAH...COME ON NOW....SHYT...GO TO SCHOOL OR SOMETHING....N GET OUT OF CYBER WORLD...HELLLLOOOOO
ARE U EVEN MARRIED....SHYT....?!?!?!?! ATLEAST WE ALL NOE WHY.....HAHAH
ITS OK....
OH YES....I NVER SAID TALKING OR HAVING CASTE SYSTEMS IS GOOD....IM JUST SAYING WHAT [[[[WAS]]] SAID BEFORE AND WHAT IS STILLLL BEING SAID [[[[[[NOW]]]]] BY MAJORITY DESIS...DATS ALL...
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Post by multitonerecords on Jul 14, 2008 7:50:59 GMT
im a sikh rajput...lol
do you want a take a picture of me and put it in the museum somewhere
I dint know im an endangered species
As long as you understand..your uncle is completely wrong Im cool.. I wouldnt hang around with him too much
I bet chamaar uncles are tellign their nieces that the sikh caste system has chamaars on top...but that dont make it the truth
truth is sikhiism is merit based...birth means nothing
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Post by londonLIONjatt on Jul 14, 2008 18:20:05 GMT
lol gina, u don;t seem to have much knowledge about this stuff, now stop writing any more stuff and be a good girlfriend for your boyfriend in cali.
anyway, if you wanna believe higher or lower upto you. do you see hindus as equal to you, what about muslims?
secindly, farmers have a high status in pinjds, which is more of a pend system than caste system. most farmers happen to be jatts, so jatts have high status in pinds, since mots pinds are dependent on the jatts annual outcome.
anyway the fact is many people say they don;t follow caste, but they stilll follow sikh tribalism anyway.
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Post by londonLIONjatt on Jul 14, 2008 18:23:10 GMT
im not a hater..jus stating the facts..if ur gonna believe in caste system..dont twist it around...to suit ur needs....u dont want chamaars in 50 years claiming they are the highest caste so yea...caste system sucks..if u chose to believe in it...know ur place in it...dont let ur parents tell u lies...open up a book..or google get familiar with your vaisya caste..if you like castes so much since Guru Nanak was a khatri farmer where do they fit in. also where do the many modern khatri merchans fit in? And where do non farmer jatts fit it since you seem to be generalisin all jatts as farmers? Not that we case much about the varnas anyways just askin lol Also do you see caste believers as being inequal to to sikhs? am i allowed to use sikh as a caste name or tribe?
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Post by princess on Jul 14, 2008 18:33:37 GMT
ok imma stop....cuz people just wanna instgate with me...dats it n i noe just because a couple of people dont argree with me DOESNT MAKE THEY ARE RIGHT....so imma be an adult n stop....cuz i now you have enough time on your hands to talk shyt all day....BUT I DONT....
n u noe if u were jutt u would defend urself too....n i noe ur not...so dats why u feel offended...its ok...
its w.e.
i dnt have time for .....
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Post by pilot on Jul 14, 2008 19:38:10 GMT
Some peoples skulls should be cracked open with a hammer, their brains taken out and put into a blender and then mixed with some strawberries, cream and sugar to create The BULLS#!t Milkshake.
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Post by AAG on Jul 14, 2008 22:25:33 GMT
Some peoples skulls should be cracked open with a hammer, their brains taken out and put into a blender and then mixed with some strawberries, cream and sugar to create The BULLS#!t Milkshake. Lol......I like that
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Post by princess on Jul 15, 2008 2:50:37 GMT
i hope ur not talkin bout me pilot?!?!?!
i dont want my brain to become a milkshake?!?!lol....
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Post by twinkledeep on Jul 15, 2008 8:19:45 GMT
I found out what a "Chir" is over the weekend.
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