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Post by H.Productions on Jul 11, 2006 15:29:43 GMT
12 BOMB ATTACKS CARRIED OUT IN INDIA....7 IN MUMBAI AND 5 IN KASHMIR,NOBODY HAS CLAIMED THE RESPONSIBILITY,BUT WE KNW WHO DID IT...REST IN PEACE DOES WHO WERE HURT
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Post by djembadjemba on Jul 11, 2006 16:29:52 GMT
wrong forum
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Post by Amarjit Eichmann on Jul 11, 2006 17:30:43 GMT
jesus christ! what the hell is wrong with people!!!?!?!
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Post by Tony on Jul 11, 2006 17:56:43 GMT
Scores dead in Mumbai train bombs The explosions occurred during evening rush hour At least 100 people have been killed by seven near-simultaneous bombs on the train network in the Indian financial capital Mumbai (Bombay), police say. The first explosion went off at about 1830 local time (1300 GMT), during the peak of the evening rush hour in the suburbs on the busy Western Railway. Correspondents spoke of scenes of pandemonium, with people jumping from trains and bodies flung onto tracks. There have been a number of bomb attacks in Mumbai in recent years. The city and the capital Delhi have been put on high alert, and Mumbai's entire rail network has been shut down. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh appealed for calm and described the incidents as a "shocking and cowardly attempt to spread a feeling of hatred". Pakistani leaders also condemned the blasts as a "despicable act of terrorism". Police said the co-ordinated blasts took place at Matunga, Khar, Mahim, Jogeshwari, Borivali and Bhayandar, with most on moving trains and two at stations. Local reports said the bombs appeared to have targeted first-class compartments, as commuters were returning home from the city's financial district. A shopkeeper at a market near one explosion said it was so powerful they thought they had been hit by lightning. Television images show dazed and bloodied commuters being carried by fellow passengers to waiting ambulances, as rescue workers clambered through wreckage to reach victims. The force of the blasts ripped doors and windows off carriages, and scattered luggage. Clothes and shoes were strewn along the tracks. A medical student at a hospital in Parel, which has received many of the wounded, told the BBC News website the "floors are filled with bloodstains". "There were so many [injured people], I couldn't really count," Sunny Jain said. "There are not enough ambulances and many people are making their own way to the station. They are coming in taxis and by foot." Repeated target There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attacks, which are the worst in the city for more than a decade. MUMBAI FACTS Changed named to Mumbai in late 1990s Population: 17 million HQ to many big Indian companies and foreign multinationals Home of the Indian film industry, Bollywood Thousands arrive monthly from rural areas, with many living in slums Property prices are among the most expensive in the world At least 250 people died in serial bomb blasts in the city in 1993 Railway lifeline Home Minister Shivraj Patil told reporters authorities had "some" information an attack was coming, "but place and time was not known". Analysts say Mumbai has been a repeated target because it is a financial hub and a centre for the underworld. More than 250 people died in a string of blasts in the financial district of the city in 1993. Correspondents say Tuesday's bombers could hardly have struck a target with greater impact - both practical and psychological. The city's suburban train system is one of the busiest in the world, carrying more than six million commuters a day. The BBC world affairs correspondent Mike Wooldridge says the blasts also expose the vulnerability of India's commercial capital - the hub of a nation with an image of rapid change news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5169332.stm
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Post by kidterra on Jul 11, 2006 21:16:57 GMT
if india think these bombs were carried out by kashmiri separatists then they need to fight fire with fire. India could and should learn lessons from the way the isreali goverment deals with the palestinian homicide bombers. India should do the same, they should find out who done this bombs and kill the the people behind it.
India seems 2 have a wishy washy attitude sometimes, unlike isreal who are'nt scared to drop bombs on targets.
Maybe indian intelligence could be sent out to isreal where they can learn from 'mossad', the worlds best intelligence agency.
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Post by tito on Jul 11, 2006 21:19:23 GMT
if india think these bombs were carried out by kashmiri separatists then they need to fight fire with fire. India could and should learn lessons from the way the isreali goverment deals with the palestinian homicide bombers. India should do the same, they should find out who done this bombs and kill the the people behind it. India seems 2 have a wishy washy attitude sometimes, unlike isreal who are'nt scared to drop bombs on targets. Maybe indian intelligence could be sent out to isreal where they can learn from 'mossad', the worlds best intelligence agency. unfortunately our governments still follow the teachings of Gandhi.......Non Violence.........the same teachings that got us independance 20 years later than it should hav been achieved.
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Post by kidterra on Jul 11, 2006 21:21:44 GMT
what about 84 tho, a whole region was raped and killed in the name of fighting 'seperatist movements'.
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Post by Amarjit Eichmann on Jul 11, 2006 21:44:47 GMT
We should fight terrorism, but in no means using America, UK, or Israel as guidelines to follow (they are a bunch of hypocrites that have broken everything in the Geneva Convention... Preemptive Attacks in no way justify the ends over the means. As far as '84 goes…. Truly a taint to India’s history (should not be forgotten, as well as, Indra Gandhi forcibly sterilizing the poor so they stop the population growth… the stupidest decision ever made by a politician...EVER!!!)
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Post by pakithug2nv on Jul 11, 2006 21:50:19 GMT
if india think these bombs were carried out by kashmiri separatists then they need to fight fire with fire. India could and should learn lessons from the way the isreali goverment deals with the palestinian homicide bombers. India should do the same, they should find out who done this bombs and kill the the people behind it. India seems 2 have a wishy washy attitude sometimes, unlike isreal who are'nt scared to drop bombs on targets. Maybe indian intelligence could be sent out to isreal where they can learn from 'mossad', the worlds best intelligence agency. isreal has pushed out people from their land....wouldnt you retaliate in the same situation? this war will last forever...both sides retaliating. i bin to jerusalem what i saw about how both sides are isolated from each other was depressing the situation in kashmir is completely different.....there will be peace in kashmir there is hope....both countries pakistan/india have been working together...pakistani's and indianz mingle freely where ever you go! lets pray for a better future for the desi people!
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Post by Amarjit Eichmann on Jul 11, 2006 22:01:21 GMT
I understand what you mean.. but we should pray for a better future for EVERYONE, not just desi people. That’s just like here in the states... every church says 'God Bless America'... Personally, I think that is a pretty ignorant and selfish thing to say. First, you’re praying to God for peace, but only for a specific Country... as if God sees the same borders and has the same colored globe with him (signifying states/provinces/territories/nations...etc) that we have in our libraries and desks. Ignorance knows no bounds.
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Post by kidterra on Jul 11, 2006 22:04:09 GMT
i feel sorry for the palestinian people treated like sh1t in that part of the world, and what happened in 'jenin' was a massacre. Im not taking sides, both sides have done wrong. But, isreal have said they will talk if all violence and suicide bombings stop, but then the peeps choose hamas in the elections, what message does that send out.
Bout india, pakistan and kashmiri separatists need to be dealt with, there are ALWAYS bombings, happened last diwali and happened now. India has the most powereful army on the planet in terms of manpower, they should deal with this.
Whats gonna happen tonight in india, hindu mobs are gonna go in2 muslim villiages and areas and beat up muslims, burn down houses, look for revenge. The goverment needs to grow balls, coz innocent peeps are suffering
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Post by kidterra on Jul 11, 2006 22:08:36 GMT
I understand what you mean.. but we should pray for a better future for EVERYONE, not just desi people. That’s just like here in the states... every church says 'God Bless America'... Personally, I think that is a pretty ignorant and selfish thing to say. First, you’re praying to God for peace, but only for a specific Country... as if God sees the same borders and has the same colored globe with him (signifying states/provinces/territories/nations...etc) that we have in our libraries and desks. Ignorance knows no bounds. come on man, america never asked for islamic extremism, america never asked for 9/11. Now u got iran threatening to nuke isreal, the iranian leader has said he will not be happy until jews are pushed in2 the sea, what are america supposed to do, america WILL go in2 iran. Im not feeling the anti american sentiments
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Post by tito on Jul 11, 2006 22:13:29 GMT
The goverment needs to grow balls, coz innocent peeps are suffering thats totally right. our government doh give a crap abt people as long as they remain in power and keep filling their pockets wateva action they take is jus to ensure they stay in power. a revolution is wats required. as regards 84' Indira Gandhi got the death she deserved for taking all those actions against innocent people. but unfortunately she is the one thats shown as the hero
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Post by kidterra on Jul 11, 2006 22:17:53 GMT
ye, well it will be interesting to see who takes responsibility 4 the bombings, and it will be interesting to see what sonia ghandi's 'muppet', manmohan singh decides to do.
f**k all happened after the diwali bombings.
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Post by Amarjit Eichmann on Jul 11, 2006 22:43:34 GMT
I do not believe Manmohan Singh is Sonia Ghandi's puppet. If you don't believe me... look him up on Wikipedia. We don't have some illiterate monkey running office, but a distinguished gentleman who should be commended for India's current strong economy and strong trends as a world power. I agree that NOBODY asked for Islamic extremism, or events like 9/11. This is why I thought the actions taken against Afghanistan were the appropriate response. But explain, or rather, justify the Invasion in Iraq?!?!! The actions taken against Iraq were preemptive! I do not have anti American sentiments… I am bitter about the fact that nations (be it the US, UK, or INDIA for that matter) have agreed to follow the 'Laws of War' at the Geneva Conventions, that has set the standards for international law for humanitarian concerns. There it was decided against PREEMPTIVE actions of any matter (like Pearl Harbor, etc.) and the treatment of Prisoners of War (we all know what a mess that has become ). The US, UK, Israel have thrown that out the window with recent events. Now this means that if the ‘world powers’ do not follow international laws, then nations like Iran and North Korea Don’t have to either. The world powers had a chance to lead by example and they didn’t. Now, if and when nations launch nuclear weapons... what 'laws' do we hold them against... the laws we broke ourselves? Who do those nations answer to? Definitly not the United Nations, the US/UK invaded Iraq, even when the United Nations where against these actions (Basically showing that the UN was formed only for formality). In an article on CNN, it is stated that the US does not have the money/resources/ or expenditures to spend on another war*. Billions are being spent (or lost) in the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. Which is why the administration is hoping for peaceful delegations with Iran and Korea, because they don’t have money… they don’t care about the spread of ‘democracy’… they just don’t have the cold hard cash. I seriously believe these are dangerous times, in which we live in. And i think that Iran or N.Korea... if pushed will do something drastic. My plan is to finish my education, and go to punjab, and relax on a kheth, & drink some lassi at Haveli or something... cause this is just too much stress and idiocy to cope with. *for citation see "the dark side" on PBS's website for Frontline
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Post by Desi Tiger on Jul 11, 2006 23:27:45 GMT
Ezee
Tut tut tut whats this world coming too eh, via guru satam, my heart and thoughts go out to those people in mumbai, with all the panic and shock to those who have lost ther lives and those who are injured!
Always comes down to fuking politics dont it...!
peace
tiger
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Post by Borat on Jul 11, 2006 23:46:10 GMT
RIP to those who have died.
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Post by kidterra on Jul 12, 2006 0:02:17 GMT
I do not believe Manmohan Singh is Sonia Ghandi's puppet. If you don't believe me... look him up on Wikipedia. We don't have some illiterate monkey running office, but a distinguished gentleman who should be commended for India's current strong economy and strong trends as a world power. I agree that NOBODY asked for Islamic extremism, or events like 9/11. This is why I thought the actions taken against Afghanistan were the appropriate response. But explain, or rather, justify the Invasion in Iraq?!?!! The actions taken against Iraq were preemptive! I do not have anti American sentiments… I am bitter about the fact that nations (be it the US, UK, or INDIA for that matter) have agreed to follow the 'Laws of War' at the Geneva Conventions, that has set the standards for international law for humanitarian concerns. There it was decided against PREEMPTIVE actions of any matter (like Pearl Harbor, etc.) and the treatment of Prisoners of War (we all know what a mess that has become ). The US, UK, Israel have thrown that out the window with recent events. Now this means that if the ‘world powers’ do not follow international laws, then nations like Iran and North Korea Don’t have to either. The world powers had a chance to lead by example and they didn’t. Now, if and when nations launch nuclear weapons... what 'laws' do we hold them against... the laws we broke ourselves? Who do those nations answer to? Definitly not the United Nations, the US/UK invaded Iraq, even when the United Nations where against these actions (Basically showing that the UN was formed only for formality). In an article on CNN, it is stated that the US does not have the money/resources/ or expenditures to spend on another war*. Billions are being spent (or lost) in the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. Which is why the administration is hoping for peaceful delegations with Iran and Korea, because they don’t have money… they don’t care about the spread of ‘democracy’… they just don’t have the cold hard cash. I seriously believe these are dangerous times, in which we live in. And i think that Iran or N.Korea... if pushed will do something drastic. My plan is to finish my education, and go to punjab, and relax on a kheth, & drink some lassi at Haveli or something... cause this is just too much stress and idiocy to cope with. *for citation see "the dark side" on PBS's website for Frontline Understanabley you make a valid point about 'preemptive' actions, but that issue is neither here or there if u ask me, the states did what it had to do. Many see 'preemption' as a valuable concept whose time had come, others would condemn it as a dangerous precedent that could damage American interests, strain relations overseas. Bout prisnors of war, the US will say they follow the geneva convention by discplining people who breach regulations. Why invade iraq. There was a feeling among the US leadership and intelligence agencies that iran were going to destablise iraq, hopefully ending in an islamic revolution or an islamic uprising, america obviously did'nt want this and tried to bring democracy, obviously things have gone 'tits up'. Bout manmohan singh, he is sonia ghandi's puppet. Just the same way george bush's strings are being pulled by di*k cheney and paul wolfowitz. Whats happening today was all set out in 'wolfowitz doctrine'. Bush is a puppet, its wolfowitz and cheney who decide what happens and when it happens. Iran will get attacked next.
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Post by x*x*x(R0J££)x*x*x on Jul 12, 2006 0:04:18 GMT
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Post by Amarjit Eichmann on Jul 12, 2006 0:38:40 GMT
Kidterra ---> You are right about DlCK Chaney. There is an excellent documentary on how he manipulated the U.S in turning their attention/intelegince towards IRAQ... anyone can stream it off of PBS's site (PBS.org), the title of the documentary is "The Dark Side". Like I said, I'll be finishing dental school in 4 years, and go to punjab, open up a practice and relax on a kheth, & drink some lassi. When that happens, i'll invite you and we could have a couple of Kingfishers and discuss politics ;D
***PuNjAbi~PrInCeSs~RoSe*** ---> i agree, "R.I.P ppl hu died"
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Post by 50Cent on Jul 12, 2006 11:15:32 GMT
R.I.P 2 THOSE WHO PASSED AWAY. I HOPE THIS AINT NO TALIBAN THING COS IF IT IS, I HOPE ALL THE MOFUKERS DIE IN HELL, AND AMERICA TAKE OUT EVERYONE OF "THEM"
WHEN I SAY THEM YOU NO WOT I MEAN
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Post by Kid aka Mrs Dhoni =] on Jul 12, 2006 15:41:08 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]R.I.P 2 those hu lost there lost their lives, my thouts r with u n ur families![/glow]
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Post by kidterra on Jul 12, 2006 15:48:45 GMT
lets not make this a condolence thread.
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Post by Kid aka Mrs Dhoni =] on Jul 12, 2006 15:52:44 GMT
lets not make this a condolence thread. [glow=red,2,300]wot kinda thread r we ment 2 make this den? ppl died if u dnt no![/glow]
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Post by kidterra on Jul 12, 2006 15:56:44 GMT
R.I.P 2 THOSE WHO PASSED AWAY. I HOPE THIS AINT NO TALIBAN THING COS IF IT IS, I HOPE ALL THE MOFUKERS DIE IN HELL, AND AMERICA TAKE OUT EVERYONE OF "THEM" WHEN I SAY THEM YOU NO WOT I MEAN It wont be the 'taliban'. Could be those bit*hes al qaeda, or kashmiri separatists Your always gonna get left wing, liberals, who are gonna disagree but i think india sholud take a leaf out of the isreali and american goverments book, and go after these separatists. If that means goinng into the himalayes or kashmir (where 2 groups are based) and bombing out these groups, then so be it, it will send out a strong message. With past bombings, nothing seems 2 have happened. Like I said, I'll be finishing dental school in 4 years, and go to punjab, open up a practice and relax on a kheth, & drink some lassi. When that happens, i'll invite you and we could have a couple of Kingfishers and discuss politics ;D with the amount dentists earn from 'private' patients, u could probably buy me a ticket out. lets not make this a condolence thread. [glow=red,2,300]wot kinda thread r we ment 2 make this den? ppl died if u dnt no![/glow] whats the point of peeps typing 'RIP', jus ruins the thread
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