Ritzy
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Post by Ritzy on Mar 15, 2005 13:50:39 GMT
its hard marrying out os caste at times its even harder marrying out of religion so think how hard it is marrying out of race! but if it's in ur kismet it'll work..... don't personally agree to it but never say never!!! cuz it may happen to u one day, u never know do u! x
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Post by Jasi_bham on Mar 16, 2005 20:19:25 GMT
Well, if u ask me....i think at the end of the day u gotta follow ur heart BUT u gotta make sure u hurt as few people as possible. At the end of the day i wud consider my happiness to be most important cos if ur stuck in a marriage u dont wanna be in....it can cause unhappiness for ur husband, children, inlaws, parents!!! But then agen if ur parents r adamant about u marrying in the same religion, u shud try n make sure u dont put urself in a position where u cud fall in luv wiv some1 else!!! However, who nos wot fate has in store for us!! My parents r preety lenient however they have told me to try n find someone of the same religion n background just to make things easier for me!! But at the end of the day they rather i be wid a guy who luvs me n is gud to me n whos not the same religion than a b*****d who is sikh!!!!
Lv Jas ;D
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Post by SikhLioness on Mar 17, 2005 17:55:08 GMT
I think people need to think about how they would feel if a close relative (brother/sister/cousin etc) ended up marring person of a different race. That way they will have an opinion of whether it is good or wrong thing. Personally I would never say marrying/dating someone of a different race is good. However it can be accepted depending on what race the non-sikh is. Sikhs marrying Hindus have been accepted and have worked out. I have also seen some Sikh and white relationships eventually working out. However, Sikhs marrying muslims and blacks wouldn't be accepted and would be extreme cases causing severe penalties and grief so that should be a no no. Thats my take on the whole issue .
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Post by precious on Mar 18, 2005 11:44:53 GMT
I think people need to think about how a close relative would feel if you had slept with another sikh person before marriage. End of the day they would not be happy either, but it happens. Very few sikhs want arranged marriages these days, and many have sex before marriage but most parents just ignore it because their too stupid and blind to realise what their kids are doing.
Its the fact that sikhs can discriminate between whats ok and whats not ok that causes problems. Sikhs should only accept sikhs or not accept anyone. Making one race to be worse than another just illustrates how you sikh lioness and the majority of sikhs are RACIST.
Now if that isnt something to think about then what is??
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Post by SikhLioness on Mar 18, 2005 20:24:09 GMT
Firstly, Precious has been labelled as a voodoo preacher in the Mixed forum becos she is pro-black and anti-sikh. As for calling me a racist... Thats just ignorance. Just because I prefer not to date/marry a non-sikh like blks etc doesnt make me a racist. For example I have non-sikh course mates at uni and we get along fine. Favouring your own kind for marriage is your preference (taste) and aint racism. Its important to understand the difference. Maybe there would be more acceptance of other cultures (muslim and blks) if their cultures didnt clash so much with ours.
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Post by precious on Mar 19, 2005 11:55:44 GMT
You fool, it's racism that is ignorance. You cant accept other races as equals so thats what makes you a racist. Fair enough you want to hold onto your culture theres nothing wrong with that, but puting races in order of preference isnt the way to go about it. But the best thing you can do for your culture and religion is to follow it properly with discipline. You need to educate yourself about your own culture beacuse your values are not in tune with it.
Maybe when your a better person, which your religion encourages you to be, you'll have the right to judge what others do. Not till then honey!!
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Post by precious on Mar 19, 2005 12:04:51 GMT
And one other thing, asians make out they have such good values, thats a load of ****. They did have values years back, but many of them have been lost now. Asian parents must be really stupid to think that they can come to this country and expect their kids not to mix with western culture and keep all asian values. Ive decided not to follow sikhism, but im proud to be indian and that is what ive held onto. When it comes to religion, I think that many parents have failed to eduate their kids properly about sikhism, thats my only point. Every culture has good values, its people like you who generalise to say that goras are like this and kalas are like that. I can see good in anyone black or white. I think religion is good if you follow it properly, without discipline its worthless. Whats the point of being a sikh for the sake of it? ?
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Post by SikhLioness on Mar 19, 2005 17:49:23 GMT
See what I mean ppl. Hey Voodoo Preacher aka Precious, your remarks weren't appreciated in the other forum topics so why are you bambling about the same crap again here. I think people read all the forum topics so I think they have heard your crap again. I don't think anyone would call me a racist for not wanting to date or marry a black, white or muslim. People are entitled to discriminate with people they love because its all about their preference.
Acceptance does depend on what race the non-sikh is. Sikhs marrying Hindus have been accepted and have worked out. I have also seen some Sikh and white relationships working and some not work.
I haven't heard of any Sikhs marrying muslims or blacks working, which is probablly because theres a big culture clash. Anyway, regardless of the reason, it's fact that it wouldn't be accepted and would only be extreme cases causing severe penalties and grief.
Like I said, I don't think anyone would call me a racist for not wanting to date or marry a black, white or muslim. People are entitled to discriminate with people they love because its all about their preference. So your the fool Voodoo Pracher, again you talk a lot about Sikhism, but you forget you aint Sikh, so who are you to say.
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Post by JaTT on Mar 20, 2005 1:04:12 GMT
aight this voodoo thing is getting boring not to mention racially offensive....i suggest you two ladies swap msn adds and sort your differences out instead of ruining threads....but sikhlioness as much as your entitled to an opinion...so is precious...after all these are forums
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Post by Pure Buff Jatt on Mar 20, 2005 12:44:59 GMT
Jatt bro, are u a moderator in here or something becos all I've seen u do is act like ur the voice of reason. I mean I haven't heard u make any constructive points about the subject matter. I think Sikhlioness was only voicing her opinion before she was falsely harrassed by precious again who falsely calls her a racist. I think precious should be banned cos all she does is act like a kid and call people names just becos people's views aint the same as hers. Atleast Sikhlionesses views are constructive and practical. I particularly agree about the bit where you said we should think about how we would feel if a close family member married another race. That way you'll know where you stand on the issue. Peace.
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Post by precious on Mar 20, 2005 20:23:08 GMT
Im not harassing no one, im giving my opinions too, and if I think someones beind racist im entitled to say so. I think your the biggest kid buff jatt, trying to get me banned, thats just pathetic. At the end of the day, my views are controversial and you cant handle that. I dont expect amyone to agree with me, but im not just gonna say my piece and disappear. Ive definately got my point across but if I keep reading stuff i dont agree with im gonna say so. At the end of the day you were the first one to start cussing peoples mums so stop trying to act like the good guy. Oh yeah what constructive points has sikh lioness made exactly, even jatt agrees that her voodoo preacher chat is boring and "RACIALLY OFFENSIVE". So....NOW THATS TWO PEOPLE THAT THINK SIKH LIONESS IS A RACIST." FUNNY THAT HUNNA!!!
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Post by JaTT on Mar 21, 2005 13:03:29 GMT
buff jatt are you one of those type who call the cops over minor domestics thought not...so i dont think this thread needs a mod to calm issues down?....im not a mod but it seems stupidly pathetic over the way people are so keen to diffuse each other here...the only thing im doing is trying to calm it down because face it people who have posted to the issue of this thread have totally killed the thread for the purpose of there own abuse hurling....gee guys nice message ya'all sending out to new users
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Post by Pure Buff Jatt on Mar 21, 2005 18:17:08 GMT
Dear oh dear guys, can't you read? Or maybe you dont understand sacrasm. Read what I said again and it should click.
Jatt I asked you if you were a moderator because that was how you were acting! You seem to post alot of remarks about what people can or cannot say without giving any constructive arguments over the actual subject. I don't know where you stand on the issue (as you keep saying u don't agree or disagree). So maybe if you don't have an opinion, you shouldn't read on and comment on other peoples remarks.
If you look, precious immediately posted after Sikhlioness posted her view (which was fair) so its clear that all shes doing is being childish and aggressive towards lioness.
And voodoo preacher when have I called anyones mum a hoe? Thats all you so ur da bad and retarded one. You probablly too stupid to remember the crap you write. People can call you racist as you keep bashing Sikhs like Sikhlioness.
Btw Jatt agreed with the Voodoo Preacher thing, he never said he agrees with all the other crap you say. And even if he did it only makes 1. Look at the number of ppl who have disagreed with you in the other forums. You seem to get excited when 1 person agrees with ya but forgets about all the ppl that don't lol.
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Post by JaTT on Mar 21, 2005 18:25:14 GMT
im sure i posted on this thread...my view on this thread and other issues associated with this is "barlee thallee vich hath ni maree da je apni thalli de vich roti pureee ah" now if you understand that thats my opinion....the reason why theres no point in sharing opinions are because theyr not even taken into account...everyones just laying into eachother for personal reasons....and buff jatt paji theres no where, where i have told people what to say and not...i have merly asked them to stop abuse against family members and not air personal fueds on a public forum....
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Post by precious on Mar 21, 2005 21:12:13 GMT
I think you need to go back n read what you've said Buff Jatt, your memory span is obviously lacking.
Let me quote what you said in the mixed race thread.... " I've got a few things to say. Firstly, your mum is a hoe and certainly has little regard to her Sikh religion by going outside her parents wishes by marrying a jamacian, so not much is expected from you."
So come again you fool, your chattin ****!
Then again im just as bad as you, for dissin lionesses ma, but at least I've got the decency to admit it!
I dont expect anyone to agree with me cos I know exactly how backward some of you sikhs are, lol!!
The best thing you can do for your religion is respect it, follow it and be disciplined. Dont call yourself a sikh if you havent got it in you to be a proper one!!
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Post by SikhLioness on Mar 21, 2005 21:58:39 GMT
Well atleast Buff Jatt's claim was justified. You had no information about my mum and yet you called my mum a hoe so your alot lamer and stupid. The truth is its voodoo preachers like you and Daljits mum who are the REAL hoes and you know it.
I agree no Sikh would agree with you. Its not because they are backward, its because they have some decency and good taste. Its those people that make good Sikhs and its people like you that everyone looks down upon.
Like I said before, you can stick your appologies because I never cared what you said in the first place. Dogs like you have no right ordering others to be disciplined and "proper", when they themselves are clearly lost. Your a real loser.
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Post by precious on Mar 21, 2005 22:18:41 GMT
Im not pretending to be something im not, u clearly are. Your obviously getting so worked up about it cos you know its true. The true sikhs on this forum havent bothered disagreeing with me as they might think what im saying is wrong but they aint fake and pathetic like you, getting your kutchi in a twist.
If you cant handle my comments get lost, cos i aint gonna stop posting! I know thats what you want but your lame exuses for insults dont bother me in the slightest. Remember im not weak like you, i know what i want from life, you still need to figure out if your a hoe or a true sikh. I think I know which one....., lol!
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Post by DesiBabe on Mar 21, 2005 23:49:48 GMT
I wouldnt. It depends on the race really! I prefer Indians. Never been attracted to whites, and blacks ...yuck lol. Wouldn't marry a muslim bcos it wud freak my parents out bigtime.
I actually have a hindu friend who is marrying a Singh (sikh with turban) so Indian marriages do work.
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Post by precious on Mar 21, 2005 23:52:34 GMT
All marriages can work you just need love and respect for each others differences, race included. If your an open minded person and can value and respect other cultures your marriage will work. If you cant embrace other cultures best to just stik to your own.
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Post by DesiBabe on Mar 22, 2005 2:15:39 GMT
Yeah but some marriages got better chances of working than others u gotta admit. It really depends on the situation, but for me another race marriage is always going to be problematic right from the start, which for me isn't worth the hassle. And if it leads to divorse, then ur totally screwed.
Most ppl find love in their own kind, so why look any further?
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Post by precious on Mar 22, 2005 10:29:36 GMT
Yeah but loads of same race marriages end up in divorce too. Asians are faced with same problems as in other marriages, money, children, bad habits-drinking etc.
I know too many asian families that have been broken up by the dads alchohol habits, and drinking is a big problem in all races.
You can find love in any kind afterall love has no colour.
End of the day you need love for a marriage to work, sometimes it pressures from asian in- laws that can lead to divorce. You dont really get that in mixed marriages cos parents usually let u get on with it and dont interfere. Every marriage has potential to break up, you just gotta have sum luuurve!
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Post by sim on Mar 22, 2005 11:22:03 GMT
To Precious your statement below say's it all!!!!!!! End of the day you need love for a marriage to work, sometimes it pressures from asian in- laws that can lead to divorce. You dont really get that in mixed marriages cos parents usually let u get on with it and dont interfere Every marriage has potential to break up, you just gotta have sum luuurve! laters xx
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Post by precious on Mar 22, 2005 12:22:26 GMT
I think people need to embrace other cultures more.
My kids are gonna know both my culture and my husbands culture, as 4 religion thats their choice. I dont think religion should be forced upon anyone, a child should be able to make their own decisions about faith, as faith is personal, its in your heart.
And i would only encourage my kids to seek religion if they can follow it properly and not be a sikh or a christian for the sake of it.
All in all, ive got love everyone, i want everyone to be happy although that not always poss. In conclusion, you cant always please everyone else so might as well please yourself. Live your life, be happy, dont have any regrets. Were not all clones of our parents, were individuals!
Who ever said life was easy? Fight for what U believe in otherwise you'll just end up unhappy anyway!
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Post by Pure Buff Jatt on Mar 22, 2005 13:12:16 GMT
DesiBabe u killed it with what you said... I totally agree. Becareful tho, voodoo preacher aka precious may label you a racisit just cos u don't love other cultures. Most same race marriages today are love marriages. Most ppl do find love in their own kind, so ders no need to look any further! Mixed marriages cause far more hassle den same race marriages. Parent and family support is priceless. If I'm having kids I could definetly do with their love. Open mindness and embraciing other cultures just causes you to lose your own culture and become easy. Just look at voodoo preacher lol.
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Post by precious on Mar 22, 2005 15:05:30 GMT
Oi buff jatt, at least i can respect desibabes views. She can get her point across without being rude and racist unlike you!!
why dont you just do one cos you seem like the only one that wants beef around here, everyone else can express their opinions without getting racist!
Not being open minded and not embracing other cultures leaves you stuck up your own arse, buff jatts a perfect example! lol
Anyway, what culture! Most asians are coconuts these days anyway. Even bangra music has turned into coconut music with all that r n b mixing. Girls do everything against indian culture and people only go to the gurdwara on special occasions.
If you want to keep your culture go back to punjab, thats were the real culture is not here, never has been never will be, not truely anyway!!
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