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Post by DesiBabe on May 22, 2005 22:33:22 GMT
lol fantasy... I was refering to black half castes in particilar. Lets face it, its a more realisitc and true generalisation than Precious's Asian views. Atleast mine are supported by facts. I saw a show on the BBC not so long ago about black culture and their high numbers in crime. I also personally know a few half caste girls that went to my college who admitted to shop lifting, I know of a half caste guy who steals cars, and one of my black neighbours has a police car visit their house every month or two. It aint a coincidence is it.
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Post by Nathifa on May 23, 2005 23:40:10 GMT
If you have to ask this question it shows we have a huge problem with modern society and cultural barriers. Where a person is from or the color of their skin should not matter in a relationship. What matters is you know what person is for you and you would do anything for that person regardless of what your family thinks.
If people still think like this imagine how much prejudice much still exists. This really annoys me. I don't care. I'll date whomever I please. I hope you guys won't either.
white black indian asian hispanic....as long there is connection what else should matter? Youn't be prejudice when you're looking for your sould mate, you could be missing out big time!
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Post by User on May 24, 2005 17:27:26 GMT
end of da day, u like/love some1, u go 4 it. but neva forget ur roots/culture etc
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Post by DesiBabe on May 24, 2005 19:07:55 GMT
This is my exact point! You ARE allowed to be prejudice with love. Whether it's height, weight, colour, personality etc etc, people have their preferences and turn offs. I can honestly say that I would never check a white and black as I don't find them attractive. Stupid people like Precious may label me as being racist or "backward", but I call it being true to myself. Asians do stick to their own by preference and I don't hear to many complaints from my friends at uni. Plus to say your open to all races does make you sound "easy".
The other point I was making was that of people like precious who criticise "Asian behaviour/culture" and my point is other cultures are just as bad if not worse.
End of the day, love is special but remember love is also blind. Who knows how long a relationship will last? Mix-race relationships are problematic in many levels, so follow your brain and your heart.
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Post by Bunnypie on May 24, 2005 20:56:34 GMT
Guru ji's said that there is NO caste in Sikhi. Only humans. I totaly agree wit u there Tony, but as all is Indian girls out there no it is not as simple as that. I personaly blame my parents for any caste issues that arise in my family, but as we know it is not our parents fault that they believe in caste because thats the way THEY'VE been brought up. Its easy saying 'oh theres no caste in Sikhi' but its not as easy practising it because (personaly speaking) it has been made an issue. I will give u an example of wot i mean in a minute. Going away frm the caste issue for a second, my mom has always sed 'U cant find ur own boy' :-(...ok i hav separate issues on that matter, but then she also says 'oh we're gna find u a nice Jatt boy... so there is the example of caste being made an issue of.... none of that prob makes sense 2 u all...spry if iv gone on abit...if it dont make sense then jus feel free 2 reply and ask me 2 translate it all in2 english ;D
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Post by DesiBabe on May 28, 2005 13:31:48 GMT
lol Bunnypie, i think theres a big difference between "caste" and race.
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Post by DesiBabe on May 28, 2005 13:34:06 GMT
lol Bunnypie, i think theres a big difference between "caste" and race.
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Post by Bunnypie on May 28, 2005 16:03:10 GMT
lol Bunnypie, i think theres a big difference between "caste" and race. U may think that there is a big difference and there probably is, but for myslf both caste and race r an equal problem...
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Post by amriksingh on Jun 10, 2005 10:21:48 GMT
God is casteless, so if god hasnt got a caste, then why are people believing in such things inda first place, god is one, humans come from the one god, so there cant be a caste barrier situation when god made man and woman
laterz
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Post by bham da jatt on Jun 10, 2005 18:07:33 GMT
Amrik, u r right with what u say. God is castless u say, well i guess thats one way of puttin it. but let's say God does not see any difference between races (can i plz emphasize im talking about racce here not caste as that is what the thread is titled towards).
as well as saying this is what God has told us to do, see no difference between people, this is also what Sikhi encourages from the teachings of our Gurus.
But now let us look directly at the thread title again, which doesnt ask us whether we should discriminate between races or not, but in fact it is asking us whether one should marry out of race or not. n please before any1 says there is no difference, have a good think about it!
i can defo easily say i try my very best not to discriminate against any particular caste, but i would defo not marry out of caste.
both points are difference.
take care all
bham da jatt
x
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Post by Desi Tiger on Sept 10, 2005 16:26:15 GMT
ezzzy all flippin hel i missed out quite a bit ere b jatt wots wit da green font man sort it out man...oki interesting debate we got ere i cudnt be arse to read all 11 pages so i went thru briefly so if im rong or sumone sed it alredy plzz correct me yeh...but i dont think i wud marry kuri from a different cast i mean oki u got white black and all oda different ethnic background but wot if da person was sikh yeh and was half cast right wud u count that as differnt race im not sayin it wud happen im only stating this hypertheically u got lota mix race people these these not that ther anythign rong with that just that it all depends on the person themself end of the day they gota make the decision and not just any decision one for LIFE no fukin bout mind my french...ehem if they like eachother love each other the bond ther u sorted unless u was propaaa bufffff id hav to think it thru but onli if she was in a relationship wit me dow not for wot sum people say jus to get ur leg over if u get my drift....now i think im conpletely confused myself wit wot i just sed... :-[ermm...oh wel
ezzy
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Post by Bunnypie on Sept 10, 2005 17:42:42 GMT
NO
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Post by sky3 on Sept 13, 2005 21:27:14 GMT
i think everyone has a right to be happy and follow their heart.
i honestly believe it doesnt matter who the person is, what their caste is, what their colour or race is. you're not marrying them for those reasons, you love that person for who they are. so what if the guy/girl aint the same race as you. they are still human. God made us all. so why do we always try and seperate each other.
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Post by lilsaj on Sept 14, 2005 0:34:07 GMT
It depends on different people as many have said.
I may be attracted to other races as white girls saying things like "damn she's hot". BUt i always know that i would marry a Punjaban. It's just a mind set. Not like i force myself into it. I guess I have a stronger attraction to Punjabans, knowing that I'd marry one. :S
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Post by lilsaj on Sept 14, 2005 1:09:38 GMT
can any1 jus clarify for me something? its very funny isnt it when a person raises up in a Sikh family n chooses to follow no, i repeat NO rule of Sikhi whatsoever, n when it comes to marraige, since somewhere in their raising there was a lack of some sort, they decide to marry out of race n then suddenly out of the blue, when they talk to their parents about it, they say "but Guru Nanak Dev Ji said every1 is equal, so im doing nothing wrong" i can never really understand such ppl, never follow anything in their lives before, n then when marriage gets talked about n they do the embarrassin thing of wanting to marry outside their race, then suddenly they know even Guru Nanak Dev Ji's teachings.... need i say anything else What about the people that do follow the teachings, and then make the reference to Guru Nanak Ji's quote??? Huh? What would u say then?
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Post by bham da jatt on Sept 22, 2005 20:55:27 GMT
im sorry i didnt understand ur point lilsaj, what did u mean exactly? (dont mean that in a bit*hy way, i really didnt understand)
take care mate, hope to hear from u soon
bham da jatt
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Post by lilsaj on Sept 22, 2005 22:55:30 GMT
What i was trying to say is that, in that quote u mentioned that people that neevr follow the teachings, start talk about the teachings with their parents when they want to marry someone outside the race or religion. And wht i was asking is, what would u say about the people that HAVE been following the teachings, and want to marry someone outside the religion?
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Post by bham da jatt on Sept 23, 2005 19:47:29 GMT
ok, thanks for making that clearer.
may i just share some Sikh teachings with u. there is no One in the past out of our Gurus or there are no teachings within our religion which encourage marriage out of race. hope that answers ur questions.
take care
bham da jatt
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Post by lilsaj on Sept 24, 2005 5:41:55 GMT
Hey bham da jatt But theres neither that discourage it either hope to hear from ya
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Post by bham da jatt on Oct 1, 2005 10:32:10 GMT
well in fact there is lol, sorry to let u down. u see i dont think many ppl know this but would u agree that our Gurus were role models? well neither or our Gurus married out of caste. think ive proven my point
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Post by lilsaj on Oct 1, 2005 17:21:51 GMT
They weren't married out of cast, yet they believed in a casteless system So your fact doesn't prove anything
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Post by maryamdaganxta on Oct 2, 2005 13:47:15 GMT
nah id neva marry sme1 frm a diff race i say "stik to ur own kind'' (by da way i ent no racist)
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Post by bham da jatt on Oct 3, 2005 19:11:00 GMT
They weren't married out of cast, yet they believed in a casteless system So your fact doesn't prove anything saj i think u must ask yourself what the gurus, quote "believed in", untill you dont know the facts urself mate, its not right to comment! what is ur interpretation on the word believed? and in terms of proving something, got it completely wrong there mate. and i certainly hope ur not suggesting that the Gurus contradicted themselves, as i may be able to write u an essay on that time permitting. i suggest u find out some facts n figures and learn a bit more about history before u take what our Gurus said out of context! bham da jatt!
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Post by lilsaj on Oct 4, 2005 17:28:51 GMT
You need to get the facts straight Bham da jatt. You state all these facts in the threads, trying to convince us that you know so much, but you know very little. Go Back and read your mistakes before you comment on mine. I know my history, sadly, you dont. Before you find another way to prove me wrong, and make yourself feel better with a bundle of words, you should freshen up on your history. Having the 5 K's doesn't automatically give you knowledge, you still have to "learn" it, if you know what that means. You should an essay about the last sentence, to make yourself feel better.
So what are u trying to say, the Gurus did believe in a caste system? *enjoys the silence* I never said believing something is proving something. You've got a bad habit of putting words in people's mouths when they are at the egde of proving you wrong. Using good vocabluary won't prove me wrong, sorry. The Gurus did marry into caste, but they didn't restrict their followers to marry out of caste. Hmmmmm, maybe....JUST MAYBE...that's why they believed in a casteless system. If they wanted to forbid marrying into a different caste, uhhh I think they'd mention a few terms on it. Once your done pondering about my reply, I'd understand if you don't want to reply back.
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Post by bham da jatt on Oct 12, 2005 19:08:00 GMT
u need to calm down saj!! i think its u who is gettin all the facts wrong, big time. so u suggest i look at what i write, can i suggest that to u first. ur words "jus cuz u wear the 5 ks..." umm....when did i say that? so jus shut up! i dont mean this to be an argument, but if ur gonna be so immature, then what can i say? n ur second paragraph, lol, dont try to act more intellegent than u r! i said the Gurus never married out of caste, n i am also the one who said the Gurus believes in equality, nothing more than that, if ur unable to have the intellectual ability to interpret that correctly, can i suggest a kids channel for future purposes! who said they did restrict their followers to marry out of caste. and it is I who has a habbit of putting words in to ur mouth, ummm i quote "enjoys the silence!!!" well in terms of replying back, how wrong u r again, as what u have ur eyes on right now, is the reply! unfortunately im not silly enough to think u wont reply, maybe its the maturity anyway, just to remind u, the topic in discussion here is race not caste. and the question asks whether "you would do it" my answer is no, if u want to get married out of caste u carry on, doesnt bother me! good luck! bham da jatt!
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