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Post by bupsee on Dec 6, 2006 21:21:56 GMT
I understand what your saying street as ive seen that happen myself. Truth be known i dont agree with it. Im sure ive said this before that converting someone for love is the totally wrong reason.
See it all boils down to the individual i guess. But its the minority that ruin it for the majority. However without turning this into a religious debate. I mean im not pakistani muslim im guji muslim and there is a big difference, lol, i have a very mixed family and we get on like a house on fire.
I have a white auntie, italian, sikh and hindu. Non of my aunties have converted and no one has asked them too. I care deeply for them as they are my family and religion has never been issue when it comes to that.
I guess street what im saying it is on the individual, sadly you seem to see the bad and never hear of the good.
By the way as for a sikh guy checking a muslim girl, i know a couple who got married and she converted because he made her. So i guess it does happen in all religions whether we like to believe it or not. But i have no less respect for this girl at all or her husband.
Truth is us the minority who think open minded will always remain the minority and i suppose as the saying goes the majority wins. as sad as it is.
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Post by Street Team 06 on Dec 6, 2006 21:54:35 GMT
Bupsee I take in what your saying and im not disputing it AT ALL, I agree with most of your points man, your intellectual and know what your on about Definately weve got people in our family who arent Sikh, we still welcome them with open arms and never force our views, traditions on them at all Nah bupsee dont get me wrong, I take in what your saying and ive said it before im not branding Islam as a faith, im talkin about the sad fact that various people are doing this s*** and it pisses me off - I told you I see the good, ive got various muslim friends and we get on like London on fire, so theres no biased S#!t from me, I always tell my friends who are muslim that this stuff pisses me off and im not surprised to say, they agree Honestly no lie ive never heard of a muslim girl converting, but she shouldnt need to, so no offence bro, its wrong when a girl converts because she feels she needs 2 to keep her man, sorry thas jus how i see it definately agree with what your saying bupsese, just hope people realize that you wont get in2 heaven by forcing your own views onto someone
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Post by bupsee on Dec 6, 2006 22:07:02 GMT
I think street me and you think the same thing bruvs, its sad what we see but i guess we cant change everyones view. Like you and me said we are the minority.
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Post by pk19kaur on Dec 15, 2006 23:22:43 GMT
In the culture and society within which we live it is inevitable that mixed race, caste and religious relationships/marriages are going to take place. We need to start embracing diversity, respecting people's choices and doing away with hypocrisy
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Post by harpzsandhu on Dec 23, 2006 16:40:45 GMT
sikhs and muslims hav neva got on togeva nd i fink dey neva will so i personally fink deres is no point in em gettin married its jst gna cause problems in da future
harpz
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Post by tac on Dec 23, 2006 18:19:06 GMT
in my view if u wana get married then go ahead n marry whoeva its ur life n u sudnt care wot ppl think or say, as long as ur happy
if my children wana marry a kala or sum1 i wudnt stop em, id jus b happy they've found sum1 lol how sad am i
n does it say in sikhi tht u cant marry any1 other thn a sikh??
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Post by kidterra on Dec 23, 2006 20:58:56 GMT
Who gives a f**k what other people are doing in their lives, peeps should worry about their own lives. Who are we to look at other peoplez situations and comment on whether its right or wrong, whether its concerns marriage or anything else.
Jus live your own f**king life for god sake, make yo choices and be happy, leave other people alone and let them get on with it.
Im gonna marry a gay monkey, i dont care what u people think, the sex is good.
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Post by ria on Jan 4, 2007 1:41:14 GMT
I just did a web search to see what the general consensus is on interracial marriages, mainly that of Muslims marrying Sikhs. From what I can see it’s all about personal experience and how u perceives the marriage. So I thought I’ll share my personal experience with u. (for those of u who would like to know). I promise I won’t write an essay.
Well a bit of background on myself. I’m a good Muslim girl. I pray regularly, wear my hijab (head scarf), been to Ummrah (religious pilgrimage), and I am very strong about my beliefs. Don’t lie, backbite, cheat, steal ect. I’m also highly educated (not blowing my own trumpet). I can safely say I am have been a good daughter, did what my parents said ddint argue with them, gave them some grief as I suppose we all have. But I never been a bad girl i.e. smoked, did drugs, boys.
A few years ago I met someone; he was a good friend of mine, as you have guessed it he was a Sikh. He is the nicest person I have ever met. And he fell in love with me. I couldn’t do anything about it. I never had a boyfriend (beside guy mates) and to be honest I never wanted one. I was content with my parents finding soemone for me. I have an open relationship with my parents and they very understand people. They have done so much fro me more than I could ever hope for.
Anyway my friend is the best person I have every known. I soon realised I was so close to him that I couldn’t be without him, and I would do anything fro him. I guess u could say I fell in love with him. Don’t know how it all happened but it did. And anther thing our relationship started of long distance, as I was studying away from home. So it wasn’t the case that I spent so much time with guy that I thought I fell in love with him o just lioved his company so much. Now that I came back I realised that I want to be with him and want to spend the rest of my life with him. We talked about everything, his family (who don’t agree) my family (who don’t know yet) future family (kids) everything.
Its weird because I am still a Muslim and still have strong believes and don’t want him to convert because of me. And to b honest I fell in love with him because of who he is not for what he can be. (as he did with me) I would love it if he became a Muslim only because as a Muslim I believe (know) that is the true religion. But I could never ask him to be a Muslim until Allah (swa) opens his heart to it. Saying that I also know that my religion forbids me doing this. So I’m stuck. How can Allah (swa) bring this person in to my life that is just perfect for me in everyway but then be wrong for me in everyway. Maybe it’s a test maybe it fate. But all I know is I love him and he loves me and neither of have lost our faith.
So do Muslim and Sikh marriages work, I’l let u know in a few months time.
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Post by AAG on Feb 6, 2007 11:46:33 GMT
1 of my closest mates fell in love with a sikh girl, they were so cute together, got on well, and were close mates before they were a couple so i guess thats why they got on so good. i knew both of them really well. they wanted to get married, but he dint want her to leave her family for him or hurt her family. he decided to move away and let her get on with life. which i think is really sweet.
i still chat to him and i know he misses her. but thats life and life isnt fair.
i dont think paki guys should be stereotyped. he treated his sikh gf like royalty as far as i know.
personally, id only marry a muslim. i havent got the energy to go through the whole fights and arguments with family if i find a non-muslim.
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Post by priya87 on Feb 6, 2007 19:30:13 GMT
I used to fancy a muslim guy, when I told him how I feel about him he just wanted to be friends and I still fancy but I know my parents won't accept it and today we are just friends.
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Post by pwabzee on Feb 18, 2007 10:13:56 GMT
i no am yung, buh i fink dah yung ppl shud also get a say in dis mata as itsh goin 2 affect them in tym [ mayb] buhh y is it dah the in the case of convertin, that it is always the female that converts? wahs wrong with the male converting? am nt sayin if convertin sum1 is gud or bad, buh its a question that has been annoyin me for sumtym. and say if u was Sikh [ gyal] and u fell for a muslim [guy], even if he did convert, wud u parents reli let u marry the guy? or would it b 2 'embrassin' for your parents if u married a ex muslim guy, and his parents wernt there? i personalii believe that there is 1 God, buh he goes by soo many different names... whether it b Allah, or Waheguru. and even if u du ask ur parents 1 of the main questions they wil end the convo on wud b.. ' What about the children? What are they going to grow up to be?' i no i hvent ansad nefin buh these r jstt a few question that wud help me if they wer 2 be ansad. thank youu x
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Post by desilog on Feb 19, 2007 13:37:47 GMT
I think that there is nothing bad if a person marries someone who is really nice and truly loves him or her. And if love is true, both boy and girl should respect each other's religion and should not convert if do not want to. things should be clarified in advance that neither will give up religion. Mostly this happens with girls and holy emotion of love is misused.
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Post by sikhkuri on Feb 19, 2007 18:52:49 GMT
wots the point marryin sumone from a diff religon its only guna cause problems later on. n wot abt the children they can't follow a bit of each can they?
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Post by helper on Mar 6, 2007 19:19:45 GMT
never convert to muslim religion when you marry a muslim
reasons
in the guru grant sahib there stands
* we are neither hindu or neither muslim*
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you will have to do rituals which our gurus rejected and thus god rejected
like
1. do ramadan 2.do eid in which you kill a sheep
nevertheless you are allowed to marry a muslim because god lives in everyone and god doesnt discriminate anyone but you shouldnt give up your religion !
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Post by bhatinda on Mar 26, 2007 19:42:40 GMT
yo chek this....the black guy said it best in the show "sleeper cell"....muslims and sikhs are like crips and bloods....we've been killing each other for 300 years....we aint never gonna get along....period.....Raj Karega Khalsa....aakhi rahe na koe..........braaaaap
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Post by mcjalebi on Mar 27, 2007 23:37:29 GMT
totall wrong
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Post by guest123 on Sept 17, 2007 20:04:30 GMT
I am a muslim boy and I fell in love with a sikh girl, we met each other in a high school ball. I havent spoken to her in 2 years now. I miss her very much and not a day passes by when i dont think about her. We stopped seeing each other because of fear.. fear of our parents finding out that we were together. She wanted us to be friends, but that didnt work out either because it felt awkward; my love for her was more than that and i couldnt be the friend she wanted me to be, I was selfish and stupid. I knew if we did go into a serious relationship then things wouldnt have worked out in the future because my parents would go mad and i couldnt betray Islam.
At the end of the day we both made the right move and now we both have gone our seperate ways and studying in different unis now. I sometimes even feel like calling her.. but thats not going to happen, because im afaird to lol.
anyway, i thought i'd share my story.
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Post by 56 on Sept 18, 2007 8:33:42 GMT
I am a muslim boy and I fell in love with a sikh girl, we met each other in a high school ball. I havent spoken to her in 2 years now. I miss her very much and not a day passes by when i dont think about her. We stopped seeing each other because of fear.. fear of our parents finding out that we were together. She wanted us to be friends, but that didnt work out either because it felt awkward; my love for her was more than that and i couldnt be the friend she wanted me to be, I was selfish and stupid. I knew if we did go into a serious relationship then things wouldnt have worked out in the future because my parents would go mad and i couldnt betray Islam. At the end of the day we both made the right move and now we both have gone our seperate ways and studying in different unis now. I sometimes even feel like calling her.. but thats not going to happen, because im afaird to lol. anyway, i thought i'd share my story. awww booo bloodyy hooo! why have a half a glass when you can have a full glass ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D answer to this thread WRRROOOOONNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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Post by hs on Sept 25, 2007 20:29:28 GMT
For those of you who keep using the victim card and going on about how much your religion has suffered...get over it.
And before you all start typing like crazy just take a minute to realise that all religions, casts, classes, races etc etc have been victimized and have suffered greatly at some point in time. Many people are still suffering because even in this day and age so many of us refuse to learn from past mistakes, instead we drag out generation old grudges and use them as excuses and justifications for our own ignorance.
so what if a Sikh and Muslim want to get married? how did they contribute to the unjust past? if anything their relationship is a sign of mutual respect and understanding. it represents hope for a future where we can look past our differences and accept each other for who we are.
I'm a Muslim and i know a thing or two about having my religion held against me. so i would never dream of doing the same to another person. if and when i marry, i plan to marry someone who has the same values about life and what it means to be a good human being. they can be Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christian or atheist for all i care.
As for what will happen to my children? They will grow up knowing that trust, understanding, acceptance and forgiveness are the more important things in life. Isn't that what ALL our religions tell us anyway...
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Post by anum on Sept 27, 2007 0:30:19 GMT
SALAM Hello friends i m muslim girl and i m very frank with my friends when i was in high school i had a friend who was sikh he was in my class his behavior was very nice with me i never expect tht he gonna purposed me in ANYWAY i reject it his offer b'coz i don't wanna involved in these matters so i ignored him but as i said he was nice and respectfull he start friendship with me and promise to forget everything but every time he looks nervous and had problem in his home in his life we were friends so he tells me everything with true as i think about him but as later on.... he starts again that he likes me instuff.... ANYWAY i though tht perhaps he is a good man not other but as time pass we starts talk to each other very little just 4 five mints and i start think that is nice guy but we had a big problem our religion is different he told me he gonna live everything 4 me but i don;t want him to leave parents we start talk as a cared frinds but i didn't know that he was lieing to me he start lieing me he said he loves me but he has 3 girls and he was trying to hukup with them when i realized i said ITS OKAY I KNOW ITS A BOYS NATURE I 'LL NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING 2 U ITS UR LIFE" BE HAPPY HE WAS LIKE NOO NOO I LOVE U .... ileave him b'coz i don't wanna be a trouble maker 4 him those girls was also muslims and i can't take him from them anywayz i m just wonder to say ALLAH help me alot to forget him and i m very thankful to ALLAH who protect me alot. now i m not feeling guilty because i know i was right he was not the right guy 4 me ............... FeeAmanIllah
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Post by Qiksta on Sept 27, 2007 16:39:19 GMT
I'm dating a sikh boy and I'm proud of it woohoo! lol I don't see why interfaith relationship/ marriage is wrong, maybe because my parents went thru it too but my boyfriend's parents were skeptical about him dating a muslim girl at first but after getting to know me, they were okay.
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Post by priya87 on Sept 27, 2007 16:55:31 GMT
Its gud that ur boyfrd's parents are alrite with u dating their son. But do u know anything about his religion.
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Post by canadaguy666 on Sept 27, 2007 19:08:46 GMT
i'm not sure where the opposition to any interfaith marriage arises from. marriage isn't about satisfying your parents or your lover's family, it's about a permanent commitment to your lover. i think a lot of people in these discussions take advantage of the fact that many sikhs and muslims have a mutual dislike for each other's communities. if two people can overcome the prejudice and racism, then i think they can commit to a marriage. furthermore, religious doctrine forbidding interfaith relationships is archaic and unrealistic, especially in the west. i believe the Koran condones polygamy, which i'm sure would be vehemently opposed by any concerned woman. also, the granth-sahib in its myriad detailedness stresses sikh marriage within social caste. these approbations, indeed, are both irrelevant and even FORBIDDEN in most "progressive" societies. GET OVER IT PEOPLE! so in conclusion, Jay-Z sucks ass. retire already you old thingy
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Post by canadaguy666 on Sept 27, 2007 19:13:03 GMT
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Post by ammo on Oct 6, 2007 12:46:35 GMT
I think interfaith marriage is wrong. Inter-caste marriage not so bad but faith is a no no...
And for everyone whos says ''oh well we're modern'' or that ''oh our parents are in the darkages with their thinking'' i have two words joined up for B*LL-CR*P!!!!!!!!!!
Its not that youre being modern, its the fact ure being westernised - theres a huge difference.
I find it shameful that people are actually forgetting who they are and where they come from, and the traditions and values our ancestors were brought up with.
And to prove how stupid some people are being hear this one fact:
The English occupied India for over 200 years and did not change a single aspect of their faith, lifestyle, traditions or religion. Yet us so called ''DESI'' can move to England, Canada, US wherever. And in less than 50yrs we become just like them and change everything about ourselves.
Its not are parents thinking that is backwards but the fact that so much desi youth grow up to be beersharam!
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